NewHotels,LittleMermaidRide,New "E-Ticket" 4 Tomorrowland,GoldenDreams 2 B Demolished - Page 3

innerSpaceman · 08-29-2007, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alphabassettgrrl

Ok, I'm really excited to see what they do with the Hollywood Backlot. Those changes sound really really great. Actually theming it to California in the twenties and thirties- cool. Yeah.

Meh, I don't think putting stores inside those same storefronts will make much of a difference to the feel of that area. The fact that they are not planning on making the whole, exceedingly boring and concrete-plaza-era area near Monsters Inc. part of the "real Hollywood" re-theme is exceedingly disappointing. Fixing up the Hyperion Theater is a good idea, but everything else planned for the Hollywood area seems like very little is to change.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mousey Girl

My only problem with what they are doing in the row houses is that it brings back memories of all the promo hype they did with DCa when it was being planned. We got all excited about it, based on the plans and concept art that we saw. It was just a let down to see that 90% of the ideas had been scrapped.

Well, to be fair, the one inside Disneyland way-back-when was almost always full of "Coming Soon" models and materials for attractions and areas that never materialized.

If that's what the new one ends up as, it will be continuing a grand tradition!

RStar · 08-29-2007, 03:32 PM

I remember the corner of those row of houses being used twicw- once for an arcade durring the X-games, and once at Christmas durring Illiminaria for the Christmas cards made by kids durring the show.

Kevy Baby · 08-29-2007, 10:53 PM

When I think of Route 66 (the road), I do not think of California (yes, I know it runs through and terminates there). I think of it more as a "Discovering America" kind of ideology.

RStar · 08-30-2007, 07:01 AM

That's true, most of Rout 66 wasn't even in California.

I think this plan of "Walt Disney's" California Adventure could work out to be the best thing that has ever happened to the parking lot since they first ripped it up. They're pumping a lot of money into it, and trying to add magic to the mix this time. Focusing on Walt could bring people to Anahiem to see just that park! Imagine that!

But where will the APs hang after they take out our lounge?? Kinda sucks for us APs when both parks will be packed to the gills. But that's what it takes to get change. And if this works, we could see the third gate open some time.

But all this success has ruined one thing for me......

The off season. There doesn't seem to be one any more. To go and stroll around the park with very little traffic, to walk on any ride in 10 minutes or less. Those days seem to be gone. I haven't really seen them since Indy opened.

innerSpaceman · 08-30-2007, 07:16 AM

Is Walt Disney going to be a character roaming the new park?

If not, I don't see where the Walt aspect comes in. "California as Walt would have seen it" is kinda vague. Even if they throw in a replica of the old Hyperion Studio Bldg., I don't think that makes the lame California thing any more that 0.000002 Walt. And I don't think anyone will fall for it.

Cosmetic improvements are not going to "fix" DCA. And, as we've already seen, big attractions are not going to fix it either. The entire concept is flawed at the core.

Yes, prettier would be better. Yes, better rides would be better. A better DCA will still be DCA.

Don't throw away your AP Lounge membership just yet.

RStar · 08-30-2007, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

Same place we always have: the Grand Cal

Oh, ya. That's right!

Quote:

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Is Walt Disney going to be a character roaming the new park?

That's an idea I was just discussing this morning. I hear the Disney family won't allow an AA Walt, but how would the public react to a ride about Walt with him as an AA in it I wonder?

Quote:

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

If not, I don't see where the Walt aspect comes in. "California as Walt would have seen it" is kinda vague. Even if they throw in a replica of the old Hyperion Studio Bldg., I don't think that makes the lame California thing any more that 0.000002 Walt. And I don't think anyone will fall for it.

I'm not so sure. There are a lot of fans of Walt out there, and that just may be the connection needed to make the California theme relitive to a Disney theme park.

But Walt or no Walt, the biggest complaint of the park (other than lack of E-Ticket rides) is the lack of "Magic". The magic is in part being transported to another time or place. As DCA stands it neither. Bringing it into another time should at least help that. Combine that with more rides and a better looking park, and it just may work. A complete fix that will skyrocket it's popularity past that of Disneyland? Of course not. I guess what our expectations are is what sets our level of success in the remake of this park. Right now I liken it to the same level as DtD or The Block of Orange. If it can reach the level of Knott's I'd be happy

.

SacTown Chronic · 08-30-2007, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RStar

I hear the Disney family won't allow an AA Walt, but how would the public react to a ride about Walt with him as an AA in it I wonder?

Or how about a statue that, when viewed at a certain angle, gives the impression that Walt Disney had a giant crank?

Isaac · 08-30-2007, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Is Walt Disney going to be a character roaming the new park?

Sorta. Bunson & Beeker will be wheeling a cart with his frozen head under glass.

Yeah, I agree that the Walt's aspect idea is too vague & not gonna help.

Adding "Walt" to "Disney's California Adventure" is like adding milk to a cup of mud.
It may taste better but it's still pretty awful.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gn2Dlnd

What fixes DCA then? Complete bulldozing? I'm serious, how do you take what's there and create a compelling Disney theme park experience?

You can't.
That's why DCA won't succeed unless it were to change into a completely different theme park.

Gn2Dlnd · 08-30-2007, 08:00 AM

What fixes DCA then? Complete bulldozing? I'm serious, how do you take what's there and create a compelling Disney theme park experience? I know how I'd do it, looks like John Lasseter and the gang are going in a different direction. How would you do it?

I'm on my way to Century City to sell the cheez today, when I get home I'll post what I've always thought would be an easy and elegant fix. Not that they're coming anywhere near using my version of a good idea, but I'll post it anyway.

LoTters, what's your good idea?

Kevy Baby · 08-30-2007, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RStar

But where will the APs hang after they take out our lounge??

Same place we always have: the Grand Cal

08-29-2007, 03:32 PM	#2
RStar Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Me & Manyard hangin out! Posts: 5,433	I remember the corner of those row of houses being used twicw- once for an arcade durring the X-games, and once at Christmas durring Illiminaria for the Christmas cards made by kids durring the show. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup! www.StarTownGifts.com
	Submit to Quotes

08-29-2007, 10:53 PM	#3
Kevy Baby Chowder Head Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Yes Posts: 18,500	When I think of Route 66 (the road), I do not think of California (yes, I know it runs through and terminates there). I think of it more as a "Discovering America" kind of ideology. __________________ The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot verify their validity. - Abraham Lincoln
	Submit to Quotes

08-30-2007, 07:01 AM	#4
RStar Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Me & Manyard hangin out! Posts: 5,433	That's true, most of Rout 66 wasn't even in California. I think this plan of "Walt Disney's" California Adventure could work out to be the best thing that has ever happened to the parking lot since they first ripped it up. They're pumping a lot of money into it, and trying to add magic to the mix this time. Focusing on Walt could bring people to Anahiem to see just that park! Imagine that! But where will the APs hang after they take out our lounge?? Kinda sucks for us APs when both parks will be packed to the gills. But that's what it takes to get change. And if this works, we could see the third gate open some time. But all this success has ruined one thing for me...... The off season. There doesn't seem to be one any more. To go and stroll around the park with very little traffic, to walk on any ride in 10 minutes or less. Those days seem to be gone. I haven't really seen them since Indy opened. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup! www.StarTownGifts.com
	Submit to Quotes

08-30-2007, 07:16 AM	#5
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Is Walt Disney going to be a character roaming the new park? If not, I don't see where the Walt aspect comes in. "California as Walt would have seen it" is kinda vague. Even if they throw in a replica of the old Hyperion Studio Bldg., I don't think that makes the lame California thing any more that 0.000002 Walt. And I don't think anyone will fall for it. Cosmetic improvements are not going to "fix" DCA. And, as we've already seen, big attractions are not going to fix it either. The entire concept is flawed at the core. Yes, prettier would be better. Yes, better rides would be better. A better DCA will still be DCA. Don't throw away your AP Lounge membership just yet.
	Submit to Quotes

08-30-2007, 08:00 AM	#9
Gn2Dlnd Parmmadore Jim Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Casita del Queso Posts: 3,810	What fixes DCA then? Complete bulldozing? I'm serious, how do you take what's there and create a compelling Disney theme park experience? I know how I'd do it, looks like John Lasseter and the gang are going in a different direction. How would you do it? I'm on my way to Century City to sell the cheez today, when I get home I'll post what I've always thought would be an easy and elegant fix. Not that they're coming anywhere near using my version of a good idea, but I'll post it anyway. LoTters, what's your good idea? __________________ Does anyone still wear a hat?
	Submit to Quotes