Taking her baby away - Page 3

innerSpaceman · 09-05-2007, 09:22 PM

And I suppose I should believe it just because it appeared in the Daily Telegraph?

Like Kevy says, that doesn't mean it isn't true. But just because it's published in a purportedly reputable rag doesn't mean it is either.

Pfft, considering all the total crap that's been printed in the NY Times, I really don't believe anything this outrageous from merely one source. Any source.

€uroMeinke · 09-05-2007, 09:25 PM

reality is over rated - I mean how can you experience it save through your senses which are all subjective inputs. Believe nothing.

Nephythys · 09-06-2007, 09:54 AM

Fingers in ears- *lalalalalalalalalalala*

No one on LoT is real- I mean, you're on the internet so.....

BarTopDancer · 09-06-2007, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nephythys

Fingers in ears- *lalalalalalalalalalala*

No one on LoT is real- I mean, you're on the internet so.....

Weren't we warned about those crazy people on the internet?

JWBear · 09-06-2007, 10:19 AM

If I'm not real, can I go home now?

Cadaverous Pallor · 09-06-2007, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

And I suppose I should believe it just because it appeared in the Daily Telegraph?

Like Kevy says, that doesn't mean it isn't true. But just because it's published in a purportedly reputable rag doesn't mean it is either.

Pfft, considering all the total crap that's been printed in the NY Times, I really don't believe anything this outrageous from merely one source. Any source.

Soooo....you're going to post this in every single thread with a link?

innerSpaceman · 09-06-2007, 11:30 AM

No, just in every thread that alleges something this outrageous. The O.P. acknowledges it's outrageous.

It just happens to be so outrageous that I don't outright believe it without lots more proof than it being a story in a newspaper.

In other words, I find it unbelieveable and outrageous. So objectionable I can't let myself believe it without further evidence than its appearance in the Daily Telegraph. Worse canards have been published in more reputable newspapers.

Alex · 09-06-2007, 12:09 PM

Short of sending you there to talk to the people involved yourself, what would be necessary to overcome the unbelievableness of this story?

Personally, I don't find it all that unbelievable. Bureaucracy has a way of producing very out-of-touch behavior, especially when given a mandate to predict and protect the "common good." Forced sterilizations, eugenics programs, unethical medical experimentation, etc. I don't have a problem at all believing that some committe somewhere looked at statistics and said "abuse as a child has an XX increased risk of abusing their own child so it makes policy sense to shift those children." Which is probably true, in a purely abstract world.

Morrigoon · 09-06-2007, 12:20 PM

Most of the absurdities of the modern world seem to stem from absolutism.

And absolutism almost always seems to involve "thinking of the children"

innerSpaceman · 09-06-2007, 12:41 PM

I'd believe it in Iran, less so in the U.K.

Published stories of further investigations into this outrage, with quotes from the bureaucrats in question affirming their purported Nazi stance, confirmed by other news organizations ... that would go a long way for me.

09-05-2007, 09:22 PM	#1
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	And I suppose I should believe it just because it appeared in the Daily Telegraph? Like Kevy says, that doesn't mean it isn't true. But just because it's published in a purportedly reputable rag doesn't mean it is either. Pfft, considering all the total crap that's been printed in the NY Times, I really don't believe anything this outrageous from merely one source. Any source.
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€uroMeinke L'Hédoniste Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: A.S.C.O.T. Posts: 8,671	reality is over rated - I mean how can you experience it save through your senses which are all subjective inputs. Believe nothing. __________________ I would believe only in a God that knows how to Dance. Friedrich Nietzsche
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09-06-2007, 09:54 AM	#3
Nephythys Yeah, that's about it- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a state of constant crap to get done Posts: 2,688	Fingers in ears- lalalalalalalalalalala No one on LoT is real- I mean, you're on the internet so.....
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09-06-2007, 11:30 AM	#7
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	No, just in every thread that alleges something this outrageous. The O.P. acknowledges it's outrageous. It just happens to be so outrageous that I don't outright believe it without lots more proof than it being a story in a newspaper. In other words, I find it unbelieveable and outrageous. So objectionable I can't let myself believe it without further evidence than its appearance in the Daily Telegraph. Worse canards have been published in more reputable newspapers.
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09-06-2007, 12:09 PM	#8
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Short of sending you there to talk to the people involved yourself, what would be necessary to overcome the unbelievableness of this story? Personally, I don't find it all that unbelievable. Bureaucracy has a way of producing very out-of-touch behavior, especially when given a mandate to predict and protect the "common good." Forced sterilizations, eugenics programs, unethical medical experimentation, etc. I don't have a problem at all believing that some committe somewhere looked at statistics and said "abuse as a child has an XX increased risk of abusing their own child so it makes policy sense to shift those children." Which is probably true, in a purely abstract world.
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Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	Most of the absurdities of the modern world seem to stem from absolutism. And absolutism almost always seems to involve "thinking of the children" __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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09-06-2007, 12:41 PM	#10
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	I'd believe it in Iran, less so in the U.K. Published stories of further investigations into this outrage, with quotes from the bureaucrats in question affirming their purported Nazi stance, confirmed by other news organizations ... that would go a long way for me.
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