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CoasterMatt · 12-13-2007, 03:39 PM

We've got an old PIII-500mhz machine running Ubuntu playing print server for the other computers in the house (my system dual boots Ubuntu Gutsy 64bit and Vista Home Premium 32bit) and Rose's runs Vista Home Premium. They all play together really nicely.

Disneyphile · 12-13-2007, 03:55 PM

I say stick a fork in the PC and buy an 8-Core Mac Pro that will last you for a decade.

CoasterMatt · 12-13-2007, 04:17 PM

So far, my experience with the 8 core Pro hasn't been very good.

Apple put WAAAAY too much thermal compound between the heatsink and the processors on many units, and it literally oozed out on to the motherboard.
I saw (and got to correct) the problem on a friend's system, but I wonder how many out there will be working along, and right in the middle of a big rendering project gonk out because of thermal issues? Pro system, with some seriously amateur construction issues.

I've been inside 2 other 8 core mac pros, and they had airflow issues that might not be a big deal now, but give a year or 2, and if that's what they all look like inside, I wouldn't doubt we see a bunch of Apple forums going crazy.

Disneyphile · 12-13-2007, 04:30 PM

Interesting.

Although, I'm very anal retentive with opening my case and blasting it with an air duster at least once a month, and it sits on an elevated shelf, with all 4 sides and the top completely exposed. So, airflow might not be too much an issue on mine.

Ghoulish Delight · 12-13-2007, 05:03 PM

Damn you Moonliner, you've got me shopping again.

I'm eying a more reliable external hard drive. I've currently got a 300GB USB 2.0 drive. It's serviceable, but I did kinda buy it on the cheap. I have no idea what the specs are, but I'd be willing to be it's 5400rpm. It'd be nice to replace it with a 7200rpm firewire drive.

Disneyphile · 12-13-2007, 05:09 PM

Firewire drives are awesome.

Moonliner · 12-14-2007, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

It'd be nice to replace it with a 7200rpm firewire drive.

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Originally Posted by Disneyphile

Firewire drives are awesome.

If you have the option, take a look at eSATA over Firewire.

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Originally Posted by SATA FAQ

eSATA: (External SATA) - External device interface specification including new shielded connector and a shielded cable up to two meters in length. The external connector is keyed so it cannot be accidentally plugged into an internal connector. eSATA is up to 6 times faster than existing external storage solutions such as USB 2.0 or 1394

Chernabog · 12-13-2007, 06:00 PM

I'm pondering the idea of another hard drive myself, but I'd probably want an internal because I'm out of USB ports lol. I'm at that stage where I'm having to delete programs to add programs and burn porn onto DVDs.

I'm gonna git me an air duster tho next time I'm at office depot, I wanna get my ps3 dusted as well -- and I need a new printer anyway because, like clockwork, my HP Printer's paper feed mechanism died. Every two years, I swear I am buying a new printer because the old one's paper feed mechanism conks out and just starts shredding stuff. Freshly printed items look like they spent a week on Not Afraid's floor

Disneyphile · 12-13-2007, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chernabog

I'm gonna git me an air duster tho next time I'm at office depot

Costco has 4-packs of 'em for $10. We also use them on collectibles. Those things are lifesavers.

Moonliner · 12-14-2007, 08:22 AM

Humm... Obsessing over the specs for Son-of-no-name I wonder if anyone knows....

The motherboard has a single SATA chain with 3 connectors. The first two will go to the Segate 750GB SATA 3gb/s drives. The third will be for the Samsung SATA DVD burner that runs at the older 1.5gb/s spec.

Will having the DVD burner on the same chain drag down the speed of the drives to 1.5gb/s or can SATA deal with different speed devices on the same chain? So far Google is letting me down on this one.

EDITED TO ADD:

From this knowledgeable sounding post, it looks like I do have a problem.

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Originally Posted by Smart Guy

SATA, like PATA or USB, is backward-compatible.. but not forward compatible. Whatever the slower speed of either the device or the controller, that is all you will realize. If using a USB 2.0 device on a USB 1.0 port, it may not be recognized at all.. but any USB 1.0 device on a USB 2.0 port would. Just that the speed would be maximized at whichever device is slower. With a SATA or IDE drive, the device will work properly, but if the controller or device has the slower speed, that is all you will achieve. SATA is superior to PATA or IDE setups.. one device per controller, unlike the previous IDE setup which has two devices maximum per controller. If you connect two devices with different speeds, the slower device will govern all data speed.
SCSI is still superior, where different data speed devices can be connected to the same controller, without defaulting to the slowest device's data rate.

12-13-2007, 03:39 PM	#1
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Disneyphile SQUIRREL! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: On the curbside. Posts: 5,098	I say stick a fork in the PC and buy an 8-Core Mac Pro that will last you for a decade.
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CoasterMatt BRAAAAAAAINS! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: One Step Beyond... Posts: 8,802	So far, my experience with the 8 core Pro hasn't been very good. Apple put WAAAAY too much thermal compound between the heatsink and the processors on many units, and it literally oozed out on to the motherboard. I saw (and got to correct) the problem on a friend's system, but I wonder how many out there will be working along, and right in the middle of a big rendering project gonk out because of thermal issues? Pro system, with some seriously amateur construction issues. I've been inside 2 other 8 core mac pros, and they had airflow issues that might not be a big deal now, but give a year or 2, and if that's what they all look like inside, I wouldn't doubt we see a bunch of Apple forums going crazy. __________________ Do you like my photography? Visit photosbymatt.tumblr.com to purchase prints!
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Disneyphile SQUIRREL! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: On the curbside. Posts: 5,098	Interesting. Although, I'm very anal retentive with opening my case and blasting it with an air duster at least once a month, and it sits on an elevated shelf, with all 4 sides and the top completely exposed. So, airflow might not be too much an issue on mine.
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Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Damn you Moonliner, you've got me shopping again. I'm eying a more reliable external hard drive. I've currently got a 300GB USB 2.0 drive. It's serviceable, but I did kinda buy it on the cheap. I have no idea what the specs are, but I'd be willing to be it's 5400rpm. It'd be nice to replace it with a 7200rpm firewire drive. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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Disneyphile SQUIRREL! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: On the curbside. Posts: 5,098	Firewire drives are awesome.
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Chernabog Biophage Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Moon Posts: 2,679	I'm pondering the idea of another hard drive myself, but I'd probably want an internal because I'm out of USB ports lol. I'm at that stage where I'm having to delete programs to add programs and burn porn onto DVDs. I'm gonna git me an air duster tho next time I'm at office depot, I wanna get my ps3 dusted as well -- and I need a new printer anyway because, like clockwork, my HP Printer's paper feed mechanism died. Every two years, I swear I am buying a new printer because the old one's paper feed mechanism conks out and just starts shredding stuff. Freshly printed items look like they spent a week on Not Afraid's floor __________________ And they say back then our universe Was a coal black egg Until the god inside Burst out and from its shattered shell He made what became the world we know ~ Bjork (Cosmogony)
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