Jodie Foster Finally Comes Out!

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

After some thought, I do believe it's wrong. I don't agree with her choice to remain quiet about it.

I find that absurd. What a total disincentive for anyone to become successful. "If you are successful, you are under obligation to parade your dating and sexual life for the world to comment on."

No thanks.

[Gemini Cricket]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

I find that absurd. What a total disincentive for anyone to become successful. "If you are successful, you are under obligation to parade your dating and sexual life for the world to comment on."

No thanks.

It's part and parcel for what comes with that kind of celebrity status. Not everyone wants to be watched but people who are successful and high profile especially in the entertainment industry are. It stinks, but that's how it is.

If I relied on the media to promote my career and to help me make money, I also have to realize that there's a downside. Celebs open their lives in magazines, tv interviews, etc to promote themselves and their film, music, etc. When that door is opened, it's open.

There's a lot of crud that comes along with celebrity. That's the way it goes.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

It's part and parcel for what comes with that kind of celebrity status. Not everyone wants to be watched but people who are successful and high profile especially in the entertainment industry are. It stinks, but that's how it is.

I didn't realize "celebrity" was a fundamental natural force.

Sorry, but that's a bunch of crap that's been sold to America by the tabloids. I have no interest in knowing more about a celebrity than they care to share, and I barely even want to know that much.

[BarTopDancer]

Hopefully in our life time we see this as such a non-issue. We, as in the world. Or at least our country. Studies have shown that children who see successful people who look like them, who are the same religion as them, the same shape as them, etc do better. It's 'nice' that gay children are able to see normal, hard working adults like them. You don't hear about Neil Patrick Harris, David Hyde Perice, Sean Hayes, Ellen, Rosie in the media driving drunk, caught showing their 'bits'. But you see them acting, working hard, doing their job. I suspect as soon as this becomes 'old news' that you'll see as much from Jodie Foster. But gay kids will be able to see hard working normal adults who they have something in common with.

Heck, compare the 'gay role models' to the 'straight role models'* (Brittany, Paris, etc..) and wow.

We never had our 'role models' showing their 'bits', driving drunk to this extent. Yes, we lost River Phoenix to drugs. There were a ton of drug issues. But it wasn't plastered all over the media like it is now. It was bad, it wasn't cool.

*by role models I mean people the media pays so much attention to that this is what kids see as 'normal celebrity behavior'.

[alphabassettgrrl]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

Hopefully in our life time we see this as such a non-issue. We, as in the world. Or at least our country. Studies have shown that children who see successful people who look like them, who are the same religion as them, the same shape as them, etc do better. It's 'nice' that gay children are able to see normal, hard working adults like them.

Absolutely. When my attraction to girls hit my personal radar, I didn't have a name for it, or any idea what it meant. If there had been someone else, I could have named it, and known better. Going it alone is harder than it should be.

With silence from gay people of all stripes, kids have to go it alone. It sucked, and I was 22, not to mention difficult. I can't imagine what it is like for normal kids, young and insecure. I was convinced I couldn't be the only person feeling this, but apparently it's more normal to think you *are* the only one.

[Gemini Cricket]

Something I was just wondering:
Are there any Oscar winners (Actor, sup actor, dir, etc...) who were out when they won?
Are there any out gay Oscar winners?

I'll have to research that.

(And this is not saying winning an Oscar is the be all end all of success, I just picked a high profile title: Academy Award Winner.)

[Strangler Lewis]

First of all, the "High Society" spread I'm thinking of came out around 1981. Kind of a poolside thing. I think John Hinckley may have had a copy of it, but I could be wrong about that.

Second, I think she worked as hard as the average actress to appear elegant and glamorous. Either she was trying to counter a dyke-image or she was showing that lesbians can be elegant, too. Of course, the latter only works if we knew she was a lesbian. Which, I guess, we did.

As far as keeping silent goes, there is the "I don't care what you do, but why do I have to hear about it" element out there that occupies a middle ground between hate and tolerance. So, there is something to be said for the idea that one can act as a role model by leading a quiet private life. Ideally, this would encompass frank acknowledgments of one's unremarkable life when asked, but who's to say.

[Disneyphile]

If I become successful, I promise I'll reveal all.

And, trust me, the world's gonna need therapy after that.

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

But that IS my response.

Originally Posted by Capt Jack

you are as always, my friend, the exception to the rule...regardless of what rule we're talking about

(And I am not picking on CJ - just using his post as a launching point)

As BTD mentioned above, I look forward to the day when this is a non-issue. I am a believer that if I want change in the world, that change has to being with me. I am just living my life as I choose to. My choice is that a person's sexuality has no bearing on other parts of their life.

I strive for the same on other aspects (color, religion, etc.). I wish I was there, but one thing at a time (after all, Everyone's a Little Bit Racist).

Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis

Second, I think she worked as hard as the average actress to appear elegant and glamorous. Either she was trying to counter a dyke-image or she was showing that lesbians can be elegant, too. Of course, the latter only works if we knew she was a lesbian. Which, I guess, we did.

What about the possibility that she was dressing to look elegant as a woman? Nothing more, nothing less.

I don't dress to look good as a straight man* - I dress to look good as a man**. I may not always succeed, but making a statement about what my sexuality is does not have any impact on my choice.

* Arguments about my sexuality aside
** Halloween excepted

[LSPoorEeyorick]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

(And I am not picking on CJ - just using his post as a launching point)

As BTD mentioned above, I look forward to the day when this is a non-issue. I am a believer that if I want change in the world, that change has to being with me.

Ditto. (Which is why, for instance, I don't buy gossip magazines, I don't watch TMZ or ET or any of the other tripe, and I don't drive traffic to Perez Hilton's website.) (I do admit that I watch The Soup, but that's an entirely different monster.)

And also, ditto to the idea that Foster may well have been dressing to be glamorous as a woman. The title "lesbian" does not necessarily imply that one must be frumpy or not frumpy. I've known frumpy lesbians and glamorous ones, and frumpy and glamorous breeders, too.