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Ghoulish Delight · 10-04-2008, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom

McCain needs to turn this around fast if he's going to have any chance. I would guess that we will be hearing about reverend Wright in the not-too-far-off future.

Good call:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27018572/

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"We're going to get a little tougher," a senior Republican operative said, indicating that a fresh batch of television ads is coming. "We've got to question this guy's associations. Very soon. There's no question that we have to change the subject here," said the operative, who was not authorized to discuss strategy and spoke on the condition of anonymity.

Hopefully if Wright's name resurfaces, the name Kalnins pops up right behind it. Not that I give a crap what Kalnins has said, but if they're going to bring up irrelevant views of someone other than the candidate, then it's fair game to fight fire with fire.

innerSpaceman · 10-01-2008, 09:43 AM

Um, too late for that. If you live in a swing state, you are already getting anonymous faxes and computerized telephone calls with misleading info about Reverand Wright and every other faux Obamination.

I thank the gods we live in California where campaigns and the underbelly of unaccountable supporters don't bother. Oh, and those unaccountable supporters have, of course, found loopholes in the law that allow them to escape the financial disclosures of the last election cycle. They are now completely unaccountable - and thus more disgusting and despicable in their conduct than ever before.

Kiss the ground in California, my friends.

Strangler Lewis · 10-01-2008, 10:31 AM

I've thought the same thing, but with Huckabee, not Romney storming out of the dressing room like Hulk Hogan to energize the base.

I comfort myself with the thought that they both want to run in 2012, and they won't think that being the VP on a losing ticket will be a big resume booster.

scaeagles · 10-01-2008, 11:50 AM

That's been a rumor with Hillary replacing Biden as well.

Gemini Cricket · 10-01-2008, 12:20 PM

Excellent points, Lani.

scaeagles · 10-01-2008, 12:24 PM

Please don't accuse me of changing the subject. This is the Obama thread, this is sort of about Obama.

Is anyone else creeped out by the children singing about Obama? Seen the Youtube ideo? I don't happen to have a link handy, but it's not hard ot find.

Ghoulish Delight · 10-01-2008, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

Please don't accuse me of changing the subject. This is the Obama thread, this is sort of about Obama.

Is anyone else creeped out by the children singing about Obama? Seen the Youtube ideo? I don't happen to have a link handy, but it's not hard ot find.

I haven't seen the video, but I'm generally creeped out by children as performers in any context so I imagine I would be.

flippyshark · 10-01-2008, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

I haven't seen the video, but I'm generally creeped out by children as performers in any context so I imagine I would be.

You'd best avoid Bugsy Malone then.

I agree that using kids as performers for political and/or religious advocacy is manipulative and awful.

Tenigma · 10-01-2008, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

Is anyone else creeped out by the children singing about Obama? Seen the Youtube ideo? I don't happen to have a link handy, but it's not hard ot find.

Yes, completely creepy. Drudge linked to it with a tag that said "Children sing for dear leader." I think he also under the Obama video, had a link to a bunch of North Korean children singing for their leader, as well.

There was a time when Drudge posted positive links about Obama. Now he routinely ignores controversial stories... Troopergate would otherwise be HUGE (I just have to read Mudflats instead).

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Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis

Who's he on the stump for? I thought he was under the stump.

Ouch! Hey, the poor guy's dead, let him rest with his jar of Jelly Bellys

innerSpaceman · 10-01-2008, 12:49 PM

Leo, for the record, I'm not accusing you of changing the subject. I'm accusing you of constantly responding to a criticism with a different or similar criticism of another person. It's a poor tactic to say, well Joe Schmoe should be excused because so-and-so did something similar or worse.

That is (most times) completely besides the point. To say, But, waaa, the Democrats did bad thing "B" does not excuse the Republicans from doing bad thing "A." And responding that Joe Biden put his foot in his mouth is not a valid refutation of Sarah Palin putting her foot in her mouth.

It's perfectly valid to bring up any of these things. But to constantly bring them up to deflect criticism you don't like of entirely other people or persons is really rather infantile.

Please reconsider.

10-01-2008, 09:43 AM	#2
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Um, too late for that. If you live in a swing state, you are already getting anonymous faxes and computerized telephone calls with misleading info about Reverand Wright and every other faux Obamination. I thank the gods we live in California where campaigns and the underbelly of unaccountable supporters don't bother. Oh, and those unaccountable supporters have, of course, found loopholes in the law that allow them to escape the financial disclosures of the last election cycle. They are now completely unaccountable - and thus more disgusting and despicable in their conduct than ever before. Kiss the ground in California, my friends.
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10-01-2008, 10:31 AM	#3
Strangler Lewis Doing The Job Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a state Posts: 3,956	I've thought the same thing, but with Huckabee, not Romney storming out of the dressing room like Hulk Hogan to energize the base. I comfort myself with the thought that they both want to run in 2012, and they won't think that being the VP on a losing ticket will be a big resume booster. __________________ Live now-pay later. Diner's Club!
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	That's been a rumor with Hillary replacing Biden as well.
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Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	Excellent points, Lani.
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10-01-2008, 12:24 PM	#6
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Please don't accuse me of changing the subject. This is the Obama thread, this is sort of about Obama. Is anyone else creeped out by the children singing about Obama? Seen the Youtube ideo? I don't happen to have a link handy, but it's not hard ot find.
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10-01-2008, 12:49 PM	#10
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Leo, for the record, I'm not accusing you of changing the subject. I'm accusing you of constantly responding to a criticism with a different or similar criticism of another person. It's a poor tactic to say, well Joe Schmoe should be excused because so-and-so did something similar or worse. That is (most times) completely besides the point. To say, But, waaa, the Democrats did bad thing "B" does not excuse the Republicans from doing bad thing "A." And responding that Joe Biden put his foot in his mouth is not a valid refutation of Sarah Palin putting her foot in her mouth. It's perfectly valid to bring up any of these things. But to constantly bring them up to deflect criticism you don't like of entirely other people or persons is really rather infantile. Please reconsider.
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