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Alex · 10-29-2008, 09:13 AM

Who knew you'd be opposed to black astronauts?

(I know, you aren't, but that was the first thing I thought of when I read the quote since "sat", "walk" and "run" were all used somewhat literally.)

However, if the Parks and King part don't make you vomit, I'm not sure why the last part does. Unless you see absolutely nothing sociologically significant in a black (or black identifying if you want to question that) president? That said, the quote is overly dramatic in a way that doesn't do much for me personally. But it doesn't turn me off.

scaeagles · 10-29-2008, 09:20 AM

Certainly it is socially significant for a mixed race individual to be on the brink of the Presidency.

I am struggling a bit to put into words exactly why I had the reaction I did. Perhaps I will think more about why exactly and try to respond later.

Ghoulish Delight · 10-29-2008, 09:22 AM

I hate it because it immediately put that fvcking, "I Believe I can Fly" song in my head. I hate that sh*t, hate the "flying" imagery, hate the implication that McCain is "bad for children". bleh. It's trite and devoid of substance.

scaeagles · 10-29-2008, 09:30 AM

It gives me the whole Obama as Messiah feeling that is out there amongst the Obama cultists (please note the word cultists, not general supporters). It portrays Obama as some form of superhero or imparter of all that is good and right and implies that is within the power of the Presidency.

Don't feel like I explained it very well.....even to myself.

I'll leave it at it's just blech, and as a parent, i don't think Obama means anything good for my children. I know many parents do, though. This is just me.

Betty · 10-29-2008, 09:31 AM

... I believe I can touch the sky...

damn you AND that stupid song.

Gemini Cricket · 10-29-2008, 09:52 AM

Glad that Dave did this but it looks like he just rolled out of bed.
Dave Matthews' Obama Ad
lol!

ETA: Then again, he always kinda looks and sounds like he just rolled out of bed.

Strangler Lewis · 10-29-2008, 11:15 AM

Well, first of all, Rosa didn't have to sit so Martin could walk. Second, the last part is overly optimistic. Third, whether it's politicians or Jesus, I don't like seeing pictures of them ringed with little children as if that adds to their legitimacy.

BarTopDancer · 10-29-2008, 11:47 AM

BY MENNEN

Gemini Cricket · 10-29-2008, 11:53 AM

Obama is on the Daily Show tonight.

Alex · 10-29-2008, 12:06 PM

I have no successfully made it beyond 10:15 pm since getting back from Europe (which kind of sucks but I have been enjoying the extra morning hours from waking up at 4:30) so I'll miss it.

I kind of which he wouldn't do it. I know why he does but I'm not really a big fan of politicians doing comedy talk shows unless they're being very available to the regular press. And since the conventions, Obama hasn't been.

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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Who knew you'd be opposed to black astronauts? (I know, you aren't, but that was the first thing I thought of when I read the quote since "sat", "walk" and "run" were all used somewhat literally.) However, if the Parks and King part don't make you vomit, I'm not sure why the last part does. Unless you see absolutely nothing sociologically significant in a black (or black identifying if you want to question that) president? That said, the quote is overly dramatic in a way that doesn't do much for me personally. But it doesn't turn me off.
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10-29-2008, 09:20 AM	#2
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Certainly it is socially significant for a mixed race individual to be on the brink of the Presidency. I am struggling a bit to put into words exactly why I had the reaction I did. Perhaps I will think more about why exactly and try to respond later.
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Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	I hate it because it immediately put that fvcking, "I Believe I can Fly" song in my head. I hate that sh*t, hate the "flying" imagery, hate the implication that McCain is "bad for children". bleh. It's trite and devoid of substance. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	It gives me the whole Obama as Messiah feeling that is out there amongst the Obama cultists (please note the word cultists, not general supporters). It portrays Obama as some form of superhero or imparter of all that is good and right and implies that is within the power of the Presidency. Don't feel like I explained it very well.....even to myself. I'll leave it at it's just blech, and as a parent, i don't think Obama means anything good for my children. I know many parents do, though. This is just me.
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Betty Kicking up my heels! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Silver State Posts: 3,783	... I believe I can touch the sky... damn you AND that stupid song. __________________ Nee Stell Thue
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Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	Glad that Dave did this but it looks like he just rolled out of bed. Dave Matthews' Obama Ad lol! ETA: Then again, he always kinda looks and sounds like he just rolled out of bed. Last edited by Gemini Cricket : 10-29-2008 at 10:00 AM.
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Strangler Lewis Doing The Job Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a state Posts: 3,956	Well, first of all, Rosa didn't have to sit so Martin could walk. Second, the last part is overly optimistic. Third, whether it's politicians or Jesus, I don't like seeing pictures of them ringed with little children as if that adds to their legitimacy. __________________ Live now-pay later. Diner's Club!
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BarTopDancer Prepping... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Here, there, everywhere Posts: 11,405	BY MENNEN __________________ Spork is the new MacGyver Postcards From My Edge
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10-29-2008, 11:53 AM	#9
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	Obama is on the Daily Show tonight.
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10-29-2008, 12:06 PM	#10
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I have no successfully made it beyond 10:15 pm since getting back from Europe (which kind of sucks but I have been enjoying the extra morning hours from waking up at 4:30) so I'll miss it. I kind of which he wouldn't do it. I know why he does but I'm not really a big fan of politicians doing comedy talk shows unless they're being very available to the regular press. And since the conventions, Obama hasn't been.
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