Yes, we can.

[SacTown Chronic]

Still waiting for evidence that Wright is racist or un-American. Sure he's a crackpot (and race-obsessed, I'll grant you that), but no more so than most nationally known religious leaders. Certainly his claims can be proven* a lot easier than your run-of-the-mill blame the faggots and hedonists rhetoric that comes from the religious right whenever tragedy occurs. I suspect most of the sound and fury over Wright might be due to the fact that he is a black man who preaches like a black man.



*Except for that AIDS sh*t.

Originally Posted by scaeagles

No, I don't think there is any conspiracy. I just think that Obama is very, very far left and may actually agree with what Wright believes. He only chose to distance himself from the man when it became an issue that started hurting his numbers.

Why does agreeing with Wright and acknowledging that our government has a history of racism, atrocities committed in foreign lands, and mistreatment (and execution) of its own people have to be a right or left thing? It seems to me that holding one's country up to the light and learning from its history is what a true patriot does.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by SacTown Chronic

Still waiting for evidence that Wright is racist or un-American.

Wright has specifically acknowledged a man named James Cone as the father of the philosophy he believes in and has based his church upon. Some quotes from James Cone -

All white men are responsible for white oppression.

To be Christian is to be one of those whom God has chosen. God has chosen black people.

What we need is the divine love as expressed in black power, which is the power of blacks to destroy their oppressors, here and now, by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject God's love.

You get the idea.

He has also honored and lauded Louis Farrakhan, who is indeed a racist himself.

Now, I suppose ractist may not be the correct term, and I mean that sincerely. But he indeed propote racial hatred.

[Gn2Dlnd]

Originally Posted by Alex

Black Liberation Theology

or, BLT.

Mmmm. Where do I join?

[Strangler Lewis]

I agree with Alex. What has disappointed me about Obama's recent responses is that in the recent clips I've seen he's saying typical politician things like "Anyone who examines my prior pronouncements will know that this is not what I am bout." This is the cousin to "I am confident that after a full investigation I will be exonerated."

[innerSpaceman]

Far left compared to who?


I'm afraid you're not leaving much room on the left if you consider Obama to be at the far end. Pfft.

[scaeagles]

Obama is consistently ranked as the most liberal member of the Senate.

I suppose you and I might have a vastly definition of center, therefore skewing our perspective of what is far left and far right.

[Morrigoon]

I just don't buy into this whole "pastor's-thoughts-are-Obama's-thoughts" crap.

I had a pastor I liked a lot when I lived in Texas, went to church weekly, etc. But you know what? He's against gay marriage. Doesn't mean I am. I think anyone who knows me can appreciate just how much I am in favor of legalizing gay marriage. Granted, I only heard it once the entire time I attended there, so it's not like he harped on it the way that Rev. Wright harps on the AIDS thing, but my point still stands.

This may come as a surprise to the atheists, but churchgoers CAN think for themselves and decide to what degree they want to listen to their religious leaders.

[sleepyjeff]

"My faith teaches me that I can sit in church and pray all I want, but I won't be fulfilling God's will unless I go out and do the Lord's work,"

~B.H. Obama

Sounds to me like he is saying that he not only listens to what the Pastor says but intends to act upon it.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

Sounds to me like he is saying that he not only listens to what the Pastor says but intends to act upon it.

Wow...if a Republican said that there would be hell to pay.

[innerSpaceman]

Obama must believe as Wright does as Wright must believe as Cone does.



You are stretching, scaeagles. Don't pull your sphincter muscles.