Spitzer - Page 2

BarTopDancer · 03-13-2008, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

Of course, he has nothing on the Police Chief in Tehran, whom I just read was discovered in a brothel with 6 naked women. He claims they were praying. Um....sure.

Why else would they be screaming Oh god... oh god... oh god...

Ghoulish Delight · 03-13-2008, 11:09 AM

Sounds like his prayers were answered.

Kevy Baby · 03-13-2008, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Like I said in another thread when it broke, I don't care at all where he's putting his willy. That's an issue between him and his family (for all I know his wife was fine with it).

From the clips I have seen of the press conference, she looked pretty wiped out.

Alex · 03-13-2008, 12:04 PM

I'd be surprised if she were ok with the prostitution. I'm just saying that the sex part of it is none of my business (and being ok with it in private certainly doesn't mean being ok with it being on the news).

Morrigoon · 03-13-2008, 01:59 PM

There is still an aspect of dishonesty to his dealings with his wife. That's why it's our business. Because if he'll be dishonest with his WIFE, why the fvck would he care about being honest with thousands of nameless constituents who don't keep his house or give him nookie?

So it IS a problem when a politician is proven to be a lying, cheating bastard, and I'm sorry but it's NOT just his family's business. If he wants to go cavorting with whores, then he at least owes his wife a divorce first. That's the honest way to go about it.

Strangler Lewis · 03-13-2008, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Morrigoon

There is still an aspect of dishonesty to his dealings with his wife. That's why it's our business. Because if he'll be dishonest with his WIFE, why the fvck would he care about being honest with thousands of nameless constituents who don't keep his house or give him nookie?

So it IS a problem when a politician is proven to be a lying, cheating bastard, and I'm sorry but it's NOT just his family's business. If he wants to go cavorting with whores, then he at least owes his wife a divorce first. That's the honest way to go about it.

Ancient history though it may be, I gather you won't be voting for McCain.

Eliza Hodgkins 1812 · 03-13-2008, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Morrigoon

There is still an aspect of dishonesty to his dealings with his wife. That's why it's our business. Because if he'll be dishonest with his WIFE, why the fvck would he care about being honest with thousands of nameless constituents who don't keep his house or give him nookie?

So it IS a problem when a politician is proven to be a lying, cheating bastard, and I'm sorry but it's NOT just his family's business. If he wants to go cavorting with whores, then he at least owes his wife a divorce first. That's the honest way to go about it.

I don't know that I'll ever understand this mentality. You can be good at your job *and* cheat on your wife. Furthermore, you can even be a decent guy and cheat on your wife, though I’m sure there are plenty of people out there who will disagree with me. It's a bigger issue when someone stands on a moral soapbox and then practices what he preaches against. I understand in this day and age it's difficult, maybe even impossible, to separate one's private life from one's public life, for better or worse. And though I don't think it wise to say "Whores bad," in public whilst secretly sticking your hand up a whore's skirt, it’s certainly not surprising. I don’t care that he cheated on his wife. Maybe their marriage is a sham. Maybe she’s a jerk. Maybe he’s a complete and worthless cad. I don't know, I'll never know, and I don't care; it's not my marriage. And I'm certainly not going to judge a marriage when I'm not exactly the marrying kind.

And I'm not advocating lying to and or cheating on your spouse, but marriage and/or cohabitation isn't easy and most people, IMO, are going to suck at it from time to time, albeit to varying degrees. But judging someone's ability to serve in office based on whether he or she can remain monogamous seems ludicrous to me. Lots of politicians have cheated, are cheating and will cheat, and whether they are crappy in office or not probably has nothing to do with the cheating. An infidelity doesn’t automatically make someone a crap politician or a crap human being.

I agree with scaegles that an elected official who chooses to violate an existing law is in the wrong, and maybe that makes him a bad politician. You can’t enforce a law by breaking it and you look like a schmuck. At the same time, I agree with Alex, too; I don't think prostitution should be illegal, so don't really have a problem with someone breaking that particular law. Dilemma.

The issue here isn’t what sort of man he is at home, but what sort of man he is in public.

Also, screwing a whore and then screwing her over by screaming VICE, VICE, VICE, makes him a crap human being. Heh. I care about the prostitutes. I want them all to be happy like the very real - not at all faking their happiness for the cameras - ladies on HBO’s Cat House.

scaeagles · 03-13-2008, 02:02 PM

Personally, I think if an elected public figure charged with enforcing law chooses to violate existing laws it is our business. I'm kind of a Magna Carta kind of guy.

Alex · 03-13-2008, 02:36 PM

We all engage in personal dishonesties great and small and I don't see them as being in the same class as professional dishonesties. I've known dozens of people who were absolutely reprehensible people personally while being stalwarts of behavior and ethics professionally (and vice versa).

So no, I don't care if a politician is cheating on his wife. Like I said, I don't even know what arrangements they may have. Since I don't think prostitution should be a crime, I don't care if politicians do it. Just as I don't care if Bush is smoking weed every evening before going to bed or if Nancy Pelosi sells dildoes to her friends every time she's in Texas.

I do care about their decision making abilities however. And while I don't care about using prostitutes being caught doing so will, rightly or wrongly, have hugely negative consequences. And that is just poor decision making. And it is poor professional decision making (as well as, likely, poor personal decision making) and that isn't good.

Boss Radio · 03-13-2008, 03:39 PM

Larry Craig called to congratulate him on taking the heat off and to concede the "I am the biggest idiot award."

All he had to say was that he was working undercover on a case that had never been, in his mind, closed.

I'm also sure that if we conducted a poll, we would find that there would be very, very few politicians who were not having naked Toga parties with high priced hookers. Or pages.

Still, an astonishingly beautiful fall from grace due to bad judgement.

And the girl will get her own talk show.

03-13-2008, 11:09 AM	#2
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03-13-2008, 12:04 PM	#4
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I'd be surprised if she were ok with the prostitution. I'm just saying that the sex part of it is none of my business (and being ok with it in private certainly doesn't mean being ok with it being on the news).
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Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	There is still an aspect of dishonesty to his dealings with his wife. That's why it's our business. Because if he'll be dishonest with his WIFE, why the fvck would he care about being honest with thousands of nameless constituents who don't keep his house or give him nookie? So it IS a problem when a politician is proven to be a lying, cheating bastard, and I'm sorry but it's NOT just his family's business. If he wants to go cavorting with whores, then he at least owes his wife a divorce first. That's the honest way to go about it. __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Personally, I think if an elected public figure charged with enforcing law chooses to violate existing laws it is our business. I'm kind of a Magna Carta kind of guy.
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03-13-2008, 02:36 PM	#9
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	We all engage in personal dishonesties great and small and I don't see them as being in the same class as professional dishonesties. I've known dozens of people who were absolutely reprehensible people personally while being stalwarts of behavior and ethics professionally (and vice versa). So no, I don't care if a politician is cheating on his wife. Like I said, I don't even know what arrangements they may have. Since I don't think prostitution should be a crime, I don't care if politicians do it. Just as I don't care if Bush is smoking weed every evening before going to bed or if Nancy Pelosi sells dildoes to her friends every time she's in Texas. I do care about their decision making abilities however. And while I don't care about using prostitutes being caught doing so will, rightly or wrongly, have hugely negative consequences. And that is just poor decision making. And it is poor professional decision making (as well as, likely, poor personal decision making) and that isn't good.
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03-13-2008, 03:39 PM	#10
Boss Radio The Littlest Hobo Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Hobo Junction Posts: 393	Larry Craig called to congratulate him on taking the heat off and to concede the "I am the biggest idiot award." All he had to say was that he was working undercover on a case that had never been, in his mind, closed. I'm also sure that if we conducted a poll, we would find that there would be very, very few politicians who were not having naked Toga parties with high priced hookers. Or pages. Still, an astonishingly beautiful fall from grace due to bad judgement. And the girl will get her own talk show.
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