WTF Stories of the Week

[Morrigoon]

Yeah, but it's still a person with a functioning (and I'd like to point out, their OWN) uterus. It's not someone who never had a uterus of their own, or who had it removed. I mean, if this was someone who'd been born a man but had a uterus implanted in them, and it worked, THAT would be pretty freaking impressive.

Someone sporting a beard that happens to still have their original plumbing, not so much.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Yeah, it's the fact that the headline leads make it seem like some medical miracle.

[Chernabog]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Yeah, it's the fact that the headline leads make it seem like some medical miracle.

It's a social oddity, not a medical miracle. The first line of the article makes clear that the pregnant person is a transman. It makes one think of how gender and sex are not one and the same (and, as a side note, the changeable nature of gender and/or genitals in relation to marriage, laws [some people would see this as two women who are legally married], the nature of family, etc. etc.) I'm not going to go into a whole dissertation (when I haven't had any coffee today lol).

Originally Posted by Morrigoon

Someone sporting a beard that happens to still have their original plumbing, not so much.

As someone who was roommates with a trans FTM when he started hormone therapy, that's again very trivializing and condescending. This person is a man, not a bearded lady. Again, it's the social aspect of all this in relation to gender, not any biological miracle aspect (which I agree, it isn't).

[Morrigoon]

Originally Posted by Chernabog

As someone who was roommates with a trans FTM when he started hormone therapy, that's again very trivializing and condescending. This person is a man, not a bearded lady. Again, it's the social aspect of all this in relation to gender, not any biological miracle aspect (which I agree, it isn't).

Cherny, you know I love my "trans" friends (okay, friend), and acknowledge trans people by whichever gender they feel suits them best, but I still refuse to act amazed that a man has a baby if that man still has his female plumbing intact.

And I didn't say a bearded lady. I said "someone sporting a beard that happens to still have their original plumbing." I believe I made that distinction.

[Alex]

I had seen tons of headlines about this but never followed through. But not one headline I saw gave any indication that it wasn't a biological male person that was pregnant.

But I was able to guess it which is why I never followed through to read an actual article.

[alphabassettgrrl]

He was on Oprah today. I haven't watched it yet.

Gender is a fascinating subject with endless variations.

[alphabassettgrrl]

Oprah actually did a decent job with the appearance. A couple odd looks toward the audience, like to say "isn't this weird" but on the whole, not so bad I guess.

Advocate has an article by Tom Beattie (there is a picture)http://www.advocate.com/exclusive_detail_ektid52947.asp

My favorite quote: >>In a technical sense I see myself as my own surrogate, though my gender identity as male is constant.<<

A response, also on Advocate:
http://www.advocate.com/exclusive_detail_ektid53091.asp
It's a supportive response.

[BarTopDancer]

Every headline I have read on this implies that a man, born a biological male was pregnant. What reality is a man, who was a woman, decided to keep his biological "plumbing" so he could have a child one day. The "plumbing" he was born with. The plumbing that was designed by nature to produce children. If a man, who was born a biological male was also born with ovaries and a uterus, the story would be *news* to me.

It saddens me that he is experiencing discrimination in receiving care because he changed his gender identity. But I don't think him being pregnant is any sort of medical miracle then any other couple who undergoes artificial insemination since at one time, he was a woman, with female organs, that he chose to keep when he became a man.

Few concerns though - what happens if they can't get to the hospital in time to have a C section? What will happen to the breast milk that develops?

[Chernabog]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

Few concerns though - what happens if they can't get to the hospital in time to have a C section? What will happen to the breast milk that develops?

I'm pretty sure the person in question didn't change anything "down there", so a vaginal birth isn't out of the question. And they DID have a double masectomy, so there is no tissue to produce milk, I don't think.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Chernabog

I'm pretty sure the person in question didn't change anything "down there", so a vaginal birth isn't out of the question. And they DID have a double masectomy, so there is no tissue to produce milk, I don't think.

If he didn't change anything "down there" then how can he legally be a man and legally married to a[nother] biological woman? I'm totally un-knowledgeable in this area.