Ok- WTF Cali people??

[alphabassettgrrl]

We can only hope that the shootings make people more polite. Heinlein said it a long time ago- "an armed society is a polite society".

Also, crime and assaults and whatnot are most frequently not random. There's some connection. Glad they got a suspect.

[LSPoorEeyorick]

I can't be certain but I think that JWBear means that the goddesses have attitude problems, not the people who like them. Both Nephthys and Kali are goddesses of death and destruction respectively. : )

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by wendybeth

I was more concerned about all the motorcycles that race in-between vehicles on the freeway- waaaaaayyyyy illegal here in Wa state, and we auto drivers aren't habituated into watching out for cycles like that. (They are expected to follow the same rules as automobiles.) Are there a lot of deaths caused by this practice?

Originally Posted by katiesue

I don't know how many deaths - but it is legal in CA (I asked at traffic school once). The reason I was given is that motorcycles can't cool down if idling in traffic, so they are allowed to keep moving.

While it may have been someone's lame justification for getting the law passed, it is just that: lame.

There are restrictions on lane splitting. If I recall correctly, they motorcycles can't be going more than 20 MPH over the flow of traffic. And multiple lane changes is still illegal.

MOST motorcyclists obey safe riding habits. The biggest danger of riding a motorcycle is not the motorcyclist themselves, but the unobservant drivers around them. Which is why I have refrained from purchasing a motorcycle on the roads.

Originally Posted by Morrigoon

Honestly, kids today are taking this 80's revival thing way too far. HEY, HOW ABOUT REVIVING THE MUSIC INSTEAD OF THE CLOTHES AND SHOOTINGS, HUH?!?

There was already a revival of the music and fashion, so now we have moved on to the seedier side of the 80's.

[wendybeth]

The motorcycles I saw were nearly all going well over the speed limit, as we were going the limit most of the time and they blew right past us. As a driver, I would not be looking for a motorcycle on the side of my car, especially when driving a large SUV. (Some of those crotch-rockets would be hard to see from my Civic.) I just hope not many of those cyclists come up here and try that- they'd be roadkill pretty quickly. (Especially with all of the potholes in the roads right now).

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by LSPoorEeyorick

I can't be certain but I think that JWBear means that the goddesses have attitude problems, not the people who like them. Both Nephthys and Kali are goddesses of death and destruction respectively. : )

On the nose!

[Alex]

It was a bit of a freak out for me the first time I experienced lane splitter in traffic on the Bay Bridge after moving here. Then it was followed by annoyance at how rude and aggressive California drivers are.

Then I found out it is legal here.

I wonder how much of the California reputation for aggressive driving (and really, I don't find it any worse here than in other places I've lived) comes from motorcycle lane splitting being illegal in a lot of other places.

Similarly, I used to have a coworker who said she was terrified of driving in Oregon because of the triple trailer trucks. She'd never shared the road with them so on her one trip up there all she remembered was them all convoyed up.

[Nephythys]

I get it now Thanks

[Capt Jack]

well, gotta admit I dont like cruising next to the triples much. not even mentioning I always seemed to encounter them on windy mountain roads.

lane splitters dont bother me all that much. the only one who ever caused me trouble faired far worse than I when he hit my mirror.