Castle Walkthrough Reopening

[innerSpaceman]

Yes, but it was blues and greens and purples at the El Cap screening. I am so confused.


And Kevy's right, there's no way to tell what the correct colors are unless they adhere to the archive records. For all I know the correct colors for the stairs are shades of purple and pink.

I'm simply wondering why the purportedly same restoration looked different in the theater than it does on that screen cap supposedly from the DVD release.

[RStar]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

Is there any way at this point to know what is correct? If any original prints still exist, their color accuracy is not reliable. Unless somebody documented what the original colors where in every sequence using some numeric valuation*, I don't know if we will ever know what the original colors where.



* In the printing industry we use the Pantone Matching System (with the unfortunate acronym of PMS), but I know that this PMS system was not in place when Sleeping Beauty was made.

We use the PMS charts at my work as well. It's a real beeauch to try to use it for coloring skin care products, I swear. But we do ink printing on bottles, paper, and lables also.

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Yes, but it was blues and greens and purples at the El Cap screening. I am so confused.


And Kevy's right, there's no way to tell what the correct colors are unless they adhere to the archive records. For all I know the correct colors for the stairs are shades of purple and pink.

I'm simply wondering why the purportedly same restoration looked different in the theater than it does on that screen cap supposedly from the DVD release.

What's a "screen cap"?

[DreadPirateRoberts]

screen capture

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by RStar

What's a "screen cap"?

Screen Capture - the images that Issac posted are actual Screen Captures from the DVD.

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

I'm simply wondering why the purportedly same restoration looked different in the theater than it does on that screen cap supposedly from the DVD release.

One cannot accurately compare the colors between what is on the screen (I am not sure if you saw a digital or film presentation) and what is on you computer screen.

And I can almost guarantee that what is on you computer screen looks different on my computer screen and on what is on Isaacs and what is on anybody else's screen.

Lastly, projected light (computer screen) will look different than reflected light (movie theatre screen).

Basically, you're f*cked...

[SzczerbiakManiac]

Originally Posted by RStar

We use the PMS charts at my work

While I think that's a good idea so you know who to avoid and when, don't the ladies get upset with you for tracking that kind of data?

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by SzczerbiakManiac

While I think that's a good idea so you know who to avoid and when, don't the ladies get upset with you for tracking that kind of data?

From my experience, it doesn't require a chart. One KNOWS when the girls are riding the cotton pony.

[Isaac]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Yes, but it was blues and greens and purples at the El Cap screening. I am so confused.


And Kevy's right, there's no way to tell what the correct colors are unless they adhere to the archive records. For all I know the correct colors for the stairs are shades of purple and pink.

I'm simply wondering why the purportedly same restoration looked different in the theater than it does on that screen cap supposedly from the DVD release.

Could have something to do with the process of transfering the movie from film to DVD. Could be the particular film print. Could be the type of film. Could be the computer monitor. Hell, the colors looked different on my living room TV from the screen caps I posted from my computer. There's different potential factors. I'm sure if you look at other parts of the film, they'll look different from what you saw @ the El Cap. Take a look at the rest of the DVD images and use those to decide if you approve of the restoration. Just my 2 cents.

[Gemini Cricket]

Originally Posted by Isaac

Could have something to do with the process of transfering the movie from film to DVD. Could be the particular film print. Could be the type of film. Could be the computer monitor. Hell, the colors looked different on my living room TV from the screen caps I posted from my computer. There's different potential factors. I'm sure if you look at other parts of the film, they'll look different from what you saw @ the El Cap. Take a look at the rest of the DVD images and use those to decide if you approve of the restoration. Just my 2 cents.

It is so easy to color correct something at several stages in a transfer. There could be color correction going on in telecine, during digitizing, etc. When I was transferring films at a previous job, color became really subjective. Lots of times the production crew, director etc would sit in on the process so that the look they were going for was maintained. I could see how the color could change for Sleeping Beauty, I mean are the movie's filmmakers still around?

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

I mean are the movie's filmmakers still around?

Last I checked, Walt is still dead.

[belleh5]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Yes, but it was blues and greens and purples at the El Cap screening. I am so confused.

Me too!! So Isaac what color were the steps in 1959??

I'm still not sure if I want to buy it again. I already have it on video & special edition dvd.