Medical Marijuana--

[mousepod]

I'm on the same page as you, GD, which is one reason why I'm for legalization. I'm just calling shenanigans on the "no adverse effect" argument that some people in this thread seem to want to embrace.

[LSPoorEeyorick]

I'll echo MP - I've definitely seen friends become so mentally-addicted to pot that they let their productive, happy lives float away. Lost jobs, lost friends, lost opportunities, lost drive... no, I don't think it should be illegal, but I think it definitely can be misused. As anything can. Food, sex, work... yeah, we can't make those illegal. But we can try to encourage people to use them well.

[Betty]

I think you could say that there are very few things you can do that don't have the possibility for some adverse side effect. I hope I wasn't suggesting otherwise - just that in the grand scheme of things I don't see what the big deal is for a consenting adult.

[alphabassettgrrl]

Alcohol's not hard to make. Making specific versions of it, sometimes yes, but if you just want to ferment stuff, that's easy. Wine, beer, mead - quite easy and homemade can be quite tasty.

[Gemini Cricket]

Here's the deal:
The people that are pro-legalized marijuana are too stoned to organize themselves. The people that are anti-legalized marijuana probably should smoke lots of it and chill out.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

For me it comes down to this.

If:

1. I enjoy it
2. I can use it without harming anyone physically
3. I can use it without harming anyone socially
4. I can hold a job, keep my house clean and be a responsible human being
5. I don't use it every day
6. I feel fine without it
7. The majority of users say yes to all the above

How can you justify taking it away?

[Alex]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

For me it comes down to this.

If:

I trim the list to:

2. I can use it without harming anyone else physically

Depending on the nature of the social harm I'd be willing to take into account:

3. I can use it without harming anyone else socially

All of the others I consider irrelevant to whether I have any say in whether another person can do something they choose to do.

[Betty]

Awww... clean house too?

[mousepod]

There's nothing inherently wrong with alcohol. There's nothing inherently wrong with THC. They both have beneficial and detrimental uses. Recreational use of either can be considered one of the beneficial uses, until it's not.

Banning these substances is silly, as is banning any substance that any adult may want to use for any reason (that doesn't harm others).

To reiterate my opinion about this thread: I find the some of the arguments being but forth that marijuana is "harmless" as ridiculous as the arguments against the drug.

It's not a panacea. I'm wondering if I'm not being clear, or if a couple of the responses to my comments are being produced as the result of some kind of chemically-induced haze.

[PanTheMan]

Originally Posted by mousepod

There's nothing inherently wrong with alcohol. There's nothing inherently wrong with THC. They both have beneficial and detrimental uses.

Other than using Alcohol to sterilize objects what are it's benefits? It's damage fills far more cemetaries than Pot ever has. Pot has several medical benefits.

And I do understand those with addictive personalities must use EXTREME caution or avoidance but that is up to the person to know where they are when it comes to the substance or behavior. Legal or not. If they do not have a grip on their behavior patterns and are on constant awareness they can become addicted to gambling or sex as easy as addiction to pot.

Once again, i restate that there is no chemical dependence to Marijuana that I have ever seen from a reputable medical journal. It has no physical withdrawls, only mental addiction. Thus it Does have mental withdrawls, but so does stopping gambling or unwanted sexual behavior.
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"Nobody has ever died from marijuana that wasn't shot by a cop"
-Jack Herer, ~ Emperor of Hemp

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On a side note- I do not use marijuana, it gives me panic attacks. But having BOTH of my parents go through cancer, i cannot see why it is illeagal