RtS: IMAX at GardenWalk, Anaheim

[BarTopDancer]

Then KB, I propose you tell me how to get to/from the destinations in my previous post, at the times that I'd need to travel.

[Kevy Baby]

If you place unrealistic limitations (45 minutes from Irvine to the Pond in the afternoon) on your travel itinerary, then you will probably never be able to use mass transit. But this falls under the "inconvenient" category. That you want to be home by a certain time is absolutely a convenience issue.

And I must have your address incorrect as I am unable to locate it on Google Maps. (I have your street name as the name of a bird and three digits in the number).

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

If you place unrealistic limitations (45 minutes from Irvine to the Pond in the afternoon) on your travel itinerary, then you will probably never be able to use mass transit. But this falls under the "inconvenient" category. That you want to be home by a certain time is absolutely a convenience issue.

And I must have your address incorrect as I am unable to locate it on Google Maps. (I have your street name as the name of a bird and three digits in the number).

I was open to taking the metro, but the times it runs is not feasible (get there late, leave early) if at all (I believe the last train south was before the game would even remotely end).

Do you have the 2nd word? If so, add an S to the end.

This stemmed from "take the bus, leave your car at home" thrown out there as the "DUH" solution. When I was doing this research, the closest bus stop to my home was several miles away. Then it was close to a 2.5 hour bus ride to my office, longer to the Honda Center.

What I (and I think GD) am trying to convey, is that "take the bus" that OCAdventure is presenting as the DUH solution is anything but. If it was practical, even with a mild inconvenience it would probably be done.

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

Do you have the 2nd word? If so, add an S to the end.

If I add an "s" to the second word, I do find you. But ironically, it then says you live at the singular version of the second word (no "s") AND it removes the first two vowels of that second word.

Google is funny!

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

If I add an "s" to the second word, I do find you. But ironically, it then says you live at the singular version of the second word (no "s") AND it removes the first two vowels of that second word.

Google is funny!

Ya, odd. When I turned on utilities I had to use the shorthand version of the 2nd word or they couldn't find the address. It's still to new.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

If you place unrealistic limitations (45 minutes from Irvine to the Pond in the afternoon) on your travel itinerary, then you will probably never be able to use mass transit. But this falls under the "inconvenient" category. That you want to be home by a certain time is absolutely a convenience issue.

See, this is what ends up ticking me off in these conversations. Out of one side of your mouth you say, "Well, it's not MEANT for everybody, cut it some slack," but when someone tries to explain, "Well, then, I'm among those it's not meant for," then comes the accusation that you're just being stubborn for the sake of "convenience".

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

See, this is what ends up ticking me off in these conversations. Out of one side of your mouth you say, "Well, it's not MEANT for everybody, cut it some slack," but when someone tries to explain, "Well, then, I'm among those it's not meant for," then comes the accusation that you're just being stubborn for the sake of "convenience".

The message that I was responding to WAS an unrealistic expectation - one is in definite danger of not even being able to DRIVE that segment (45 minutes from Irvine to Anaheim during the peak of afternoon drive time).

To make the complaint that mass transit "will never meet my needs because it can't match my car drive time" is an unreasonable expectation. THAT is what I was reading.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

The message that I was responding to WAS an unrealistic expectation - one is in definite danger of not even being able to DRIVE that segment (45 minutes from Irvine to Anaheim during the peak of afternoon drive time).

To make the complaint that mass transit "will never meet my needs because it can't match my car drive time" is an unreasonable expectation. THAT is what I was reading.

Those are my needs, which I added in a separate reply. That drive is doable in 45 minutes, I did it all last season. I also hope that you aren't suggesting I walk/bike ride home at 10:30 or 11 at night (which is when I presume a bus would get me back to Irvine). It may be Irvine but it's still not a smart idea safety wise.

It's quite obvious that the OCTA cannot meet my needs. That's ok. Again, I'll restate that "take the bus" is not the DUH answer that was implied earlier in this thread and that is what I am trying to explain. It's not a matter of convenience. It's reality. I'd also like to know where the prompter of this debate disappeared to - he didn't answer my questions either.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

The message that I was responding to WAS an unrealistic expectation - one is in definite danger of not even being able to DRIVE that segment (45 minutes from Irvine to Anaheim during the peak of afternoon drive time).

To make the complaint that mass transit "will never meet my needs because it can't match my car drive time" is an unreasonable expectation. THAT is what I was reading.

Ok, so what is a reasonable expectation? Twice the time? Including the amount of time it takes to get to the stop/station, or any transfers needed?

Every time I've had occasion to compare the drive time to the time it would take for public transit, it's ALWAYS been more than twice the time it would take to drive. Like GD said, we lived down the street from a Park and Ride, and right now we live a short bike ride from a train stop. I have always wished to use public transit and check it every once in a while, hoping things have improved. And as I said, it's always, always more than twice the time it would take to drive. That is impractical, unreasonable, inconvenient and so annoying there is no way you'd get to your destination happy.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

If you place unrealistic limitations (45 minutes from Irvine to the Pond in the afternoon) on your travel itinerary, then you will probably never be able to use mass transit. But this falls under the "inconvenient" category. That you want to be home by a certain time is absolutely a convenience issue.

I want to add, that what you say are "unrealistic limitations" is what actual life allows. If I am taking the bus to save money, I'm certainly not going to spend $10+ 3 times a week on food. I'm going to eat dinner beforehand, like I do now. Also, can't very well ask my boss to leave early so I can catch the bus to the games. Leaving early is reserved for important games that start at 5pm.

For Sunday games, real life dictates that I leave an hour before the game, I'm usually doing homework (which requires an internet connection) up until I leave.