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The movies that I've gone to see, I have enjoyed. But, I have gone to go as a family or with the Hubster.
I finally get to see chick flicks when I see them at work cheap. I only recently saw 'The Holiday'. I thought it was cute. I don't like watching $h*! blown up. I like firemen. ![]()
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Which is why, ultimately, people identify more with the traumatized, conflicted Batman and the traumatized conflicted Spiderman more than the Godlike Superman.
A very interesting spin on the genre will be the upcoming Watchmen movie, which, if it is faithful to the graphic novel, should have a lot of moral ambiguity. |
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I've enjoyed reading the X-Men comics since I was like 8 or so. I didn't know it back then, but there are a lot of gay themes that play throughout their comix, cartoons and movies. Mutant discrimination = homophobia.
![]() In fact, in a recent take on the X-men (Ultimate X-Men) Colossus is gay. He and Northstar from Alpha Flight are dating... |
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I enjoy the "familiar" super hero movies well enough. On the other hand, it's something of a guilty pleasure. I don't see much meaningful difference between the super hero (and Bond) movies that this crowd anticipates and flocks to and Stallone/Schwarzenegger/Bruce Willis movies that I doubt inspired similar reactions. It's all tough guys kicking ass while spouting extremely tiring one liners.
What really gets my goat, though, are the recent TV shows like Heroes and all the Profiler-type shows where the cop sees dead people, or the future, or ten seconds into the future, or into the victim's mind (all the while with a shocked quizzical look on their face). I like my Hollywood liberal, skeptical, secular and anti-war. If I want to watch a war show, give me a good episode of JAG or Rat Patrol over a p**ssified, me-too-kind-of show like Heroes.
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EuroMeinke, you would have made a hell of an anthropologist. Nice questions.
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Why am I not surprised the Heroes is one of the only shows I make it a point to watch and Strangler hates it?
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I was always moved by Archie's eternal dilemma: Betty or Veronica.
The best pro wrestling story lines also have a lot of ambiguity. There are very few pure heels or faces anymore. I don't hate it. I've never seen it. I just hate the idea of it. If I watched it, I'd probably get into it.
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We gave up before the end of season 1. Started out great but the dialog got way too exposition-heavy and the acting left a lot to be desired.
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Boss Radio made some great points. Mythology, yes, and I'd extend that to the Jesus story as well. Movies like Star Wars and the Matrix also push the "super hero" button.
I think it does all boil down to Good vs Evil, especially in the conflicted ones. The battle is played out from top to bottom - Peace vs Anarchy, Crime vs Justice, Justice vs Vengeance, Helping others vs Helping yourself, Guilt vs Redemption...decisions decisions decisions. Peter Parker didn't stop a criminal because he didn't care, and that criminal killed the only father he'd known. Wrong decision, which he attempts to right forever. In the various Batman incarnations, he always gets to blame himself for his parent's death in some way (though he was only a kid and really wasn't his fault). It also has to do with Trial by One Person vs Trial by Committee. There's a good reason Batman rises up only in a Gotham that is corrupted, with cops on the take. Bureaucracy vs individual decisions is another choice where we get to weigh pros and cons. There's something very satisfying in a universe where the guy that saw the criminal perform a crime is totally justified to beat the sh!t out of him. But this leads to the whole "won't kill the supervillain, even after countless attempts by the supervillain to kill the good guy." Good vs Evil again - controlling your base instinct and letting true justice prevail. That is, if the villain doesn't kill themselves somehow. Addendum - I love the idea of doing a Civic Good but without having to join a Committee. Hmmm. I push this out to One Person (or small band) against The System. Luke and the Rebels vs The Empire. Neo and Zion vs the Matrix. You can't control me, muthafckas. Good bad good bad good bad....though I'm no comic book person I think that pretty much describes the genre, and every other compelling story ever written. ![]()
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I think that in the fantasy of swift justice being dispensed by a masked vigilante, we feel a sense of vindication, whereas in the real world when someone takes the law into their own hands, we view it with more suspicion than admiration. Costume + superpower = Justification of vigilantism. |
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