All About McCain - Page 36

innerSpaceman · 09-01-2008, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

She's come right out and ... brought it forth herself due to the quite spiteful and vicious left wing rumors that Trig is not hers.

So, are you admitting the candidate would likely not have revealed this little Family Values gaffe if there were no rumors that could be squelched only with this uncomfortable truth?

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

That could perhaps be one of the most offensive posts I've ever read, alphabassetgrrl. Sorry I asked.

Sometimes, scaeagles, i have to wonder what planet you're on. alphabassetgrrl put it all together concisely, with conviction, and quite patriotically.

Are you saying none of that stuff about Palin is true? Using her office to fire people for personal reasons has been well-documented in the press. You asked here for a follow-up example to her disregard for the environment, and you were provided one.

What are you trying to claim about Ms. Palin??? That's she's not a corrupt hyprocrit lacking in experience and stewardship??? On.What.Planet?

E.T.A.: scaeagles has already expanded on his position while i was typing this, so disregard as necessary

Sub la Goon · 09-01-2008, 02:16 PM

I think ABgrrl's post was not offensive at all and just illustrates the disdain with which some (don't know how many or what percentage) progressive women view McCain's VP choice.

The submittal of this n00b Alaskan to answer/entice disappointed Hillary supporters?
That is the real offense.

scaeagles · 09-01-2008, 02:30 PM

I cannot speak to what she said regarding the firings and all. I don't know anything of it...there could be something to it, i don't know.

It was her third and fifth pargraphs, particularly the fifth, that I find to be offensive and ridiculously ignorant. I'm a conservative and don't happen to think my wife's place is in the home, and if you think my wife is stupid and doesn't think for herself as a conservative, than you obviously don't know many conservative women. My wife teaches at a Christian school where she was (gasp!) even allowed to remain as a teacher after giving birth! Can you believe it?!?!?! ABG has insulted every conservative female I know. How dare they NOT think like her! That must mean they are under the thumb of a domineering male who has brainwashed her into thinking that way.

On top of that, I don't know personally know any conservative leaning men that like stupid women nor any who have chsined their wives to a stove.

Yep - pretty insanely insulting.

And Sub, she offers a lot more than being just a woman in terms of consolidating a very shaky conservative base for the republicans.

wendybeth · 09-01-2008, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

I cannot speak to what she said regarding the firings and all. I don't know anything of it...there could be something to it, i don't know.

It was her third and fifth pargraphs, particularly the fifth, that I find to be offensive and ridiculously ignorant. I'm a conservative and don't happen to think my wife's place is in the home, and if you think my wife is stupid and doesn't think for herself as a conservative, than you obviously don't know many conservative women. My wife teaches at a Christian school where she was (gasp!) even allowed to remain as a teacher after giving birth! Can you believe it?!?!?! ABG has insulted every conservative female I know. How dare they NOT think like her! That must mean they are under the thumb of a domineering male who has brainwashed her into thinking that way.

On top of that, I don't know personally know any conservative leaning men that like stupid women nor any who have chsined their wives to a stove.

Yep - pretty insanely insulting.

And Sub, she offers a lot more than being just a woman in terms of consolidating a very shaky conservative base for the republicans.

Sorry, dude. Maybe you're not aware of any- you're not a Neanderthal and I've no doubt you and your spouse have a reasonably equitable relationship. I live in a very conservative area, and I know a lot of couples where the dynamic is exactly how ABG describes. Not a one of them is liberal. Most of the women are very unhappy as well, but their hubbies remain blissfully unaware until they leave them. Working in the business I do, and living in the neighborhood I do (predominantly Mormon), I see and hear things I doubt very much you are privy to. You want to know how women really feel? Ask their hairdresser.

Palin is a joke, and McCain will be sorry he chose her over the many others (male or female) that were better suited for such an important job. I'd say I am glad he chose her, as it only helps our side, but I care about my country enough to be very concerned that someone like that is even in the running.

wendybeth · 09-01-2008, 04:06 PM

Oh, and I just had to say that yesterday we at a festival in our downtown park, which draws people from all over the area. The Democrat's booth was swamped, while the Repub's was deserted. The guy running the Dem booth said it had been that way since the start of the festival. As I stated before, this is a very conservative town and it was really cool to see so much interest in the Dems for a change. There are Obama/Biden stickers and signs everywhere. It's nice to have hope for once.

scaeagles · 09-01-2008, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wendybeth

As I stated before, this is a very conservative town

Didn't you guys have Tip O'Neill there? He was from Spokane, right?

wendybeth · 09-01-2008, 04:23 PM

Nope- Tom Foley. And the idiots voted him out, while he was House Speaker (although he would have been minority leader should he have been re-elected) and voted in George Netherbutt, who ran on a term limits platform. Of course, he changed his mind about term limits when his was up, and ran again. Dick.

Strangler Lewis · 09-01-2008, 02:34 PM

Keep it coming, ladies. My mother, who was going to vote for McCain, now says she'll vote for Obama because of McCain's selection of Palin, this pretty nobody. My wife's elderly great aunt, who's never voted for a Democrat, will sit this out. (Frankly, I think they'll both change their minds again by election day.)

I don't think too much sport should be made of Bristol's pregnancy. I am interested in learning if Levi is a 17-year-old Michael Cera type or a 30-year-old oil worker. Will we see him before the election? As far as the possibility of covering up Trig, I'm mildly sympathetic to a misguided attempt to protect her daughter. What concerns me on the "what kind of person are we electing here" front is whether Palin made/is making decisions that are actually damaging to her family in service of her own political ambition.

I also don't like seeing people who campaign in terms of moral absolutes not being able to live up to them. However, like Reagan and Clinton, she may be one of those people who can milk sympathy and approval by projecting herself as a sinner of personal limitations. We'll see.

But as with Clinton and all these dogs, the truth comes out. Would I object to seeing some trumped up legal proceeding where Palin and all involved have to answer questions under penalty of perjury? Not at all.

scaeagles · 09-01-2008, 04:11 PM

What does "someone like that" mean? Someone who is conservative? She obviously has helped rally the conservative base who is less than thrilled with McCain. Someone with so little experience? If it experience that matters, then why be excited about Obama? Someone who has a track record of eliminating spending and opposing the party leadership, and calling out corrupt Republicans?

I really have no idea what is offensive about this woman in the least.

I have no doubt there are people exactly as have been described. I know people who support abortion because abortions have a higher rate among the african american population, and they are racists and want fewer african american people around. Pretty disgusting. But they exist. I don't think it would be a good idea to come on this board and say that people who support abortion do so for that reason. I think that mught rile a few people up. Apparently, though, painting with a broad brush like that is completely acceptable here when it comes to conservatives. It is offensive.

BarTopDancer · 09-02-2008, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

I really have no idea what is offensive about this woman in the least.

I find it offensive that she is OK with the government telling her what to do with her body. I find it offensive that she wants to tell other women what to do with their bodies. I find it offensive that she probably didn't promote safe sex, and instead promoted no sex with her child and now has a pregnant teen. I only find the previous offensive because it's proven that abstinence only education does not work. I don't care that her daughter is pregnant. Sh*t happens. I care about the hypocrisy in toting abstinence only education as the best method and having a pregnant daughter.

09-01-2008, 02:16 PM	#2
Sub la Goon Ride me! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The line forms here... Posts: 326	I think ABgrrl's post was not offensive at all and just illustrates the disdain with which some (don't know how many or what percentage) progressive women view McCain's VP choice. The submittal of this n00b Alaskan to answer/entice disappointed Hillary supporters? That is the real offense. __________________ You roll the dice, you move your mice.
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09-01-2008, 02:30 PM	#3
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I cannot speak to what she said regarding the firings and all. I don't know anything of it...there could be something to it, i don't know. It was her third and fifth pargraphs, particularly the fifth, that I find to be offensive and ridiculously ignorant. I'm a conservative and don't happen to think my wife's place is in the home, and if you think my wife is stupid and doesn't think for herself as a conservative, than you obviously don't know many conservative women. My wife teaches at a Christian school where she was (gasp!) even allowed to remain as a teacher after giving birth! Can you believe it?!?!?! ABG has insulted every conservative female I know. How dare they NOT think like her! That must mean they are under the thumb of a domineering male who has brainwashed her into thinking that way. On top of that, I don't know personally know any conservative leaning men that like stupid women nor any who have chsined their wives to a stove. Yep - pretty insanely insulting. And Sub, she offers a lot more than being just a woman in terms of consolidating a very shaky conservative base for the republicans.
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09-01-2008, 04:06 PM	#5
wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	Oh, and I just had to say that yesterday we at a festival in our downtown park, which draws people from all over the area. The Democrat's booth was swamped, while the Repub's was deserted. The guy running the Dem booth said it had been that way since the start of the festival. As I stated before, this is a very conservative town and it was really cool to see so much interest in the Dems for a change. There are Obama/Biden stickers and signs everywhere. It's nice to have hope for once. __________________
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09-01-2008, 04:23 PM	#7
wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	Nope- Tom Foley. And the idiots voted him out, while he was House Speaker (although he would have been minority leader should he have been re-elected) and voted in George Netherbutt, who ran on a term limits platform. Of course, he changed his mind about term limits when his was up, and ran again. Dick. __________________
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09-01-2008, 02:34 PM	#8
Strangler Lewis Doing The Job Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a state Posts: 3,956	Keep it coming, ladies. My mother, who was going to vote for McCain, now says she'll vote for Obama because of McCain's selection of Palin, this pretty nobody. My wife's elderly great aunt, who's never voted for a Democrat, will sit this out. (Frankly, I think they'll both change their minds again by election day.) I don't think too much sport should be made of Bristol's pregnancy. I am interested in learning if Levi is a 17-year-old Michael Cera type or a 30-year-old oil worker. Will we see him before the election? As far as the possibility of covering up Trig, I'm mildly sympathetic to a misguided attempt to protect her daughter. What concerns me on the "what kind of person are we electing here" front is whether Palin made/is making decisions that are actually damaging to her family in service of her own political ambition. I also don't like seeing people who campaign in terms of moral absolutes not being able to live up to them. However, like Reagan and Clinton, she may be one of those people who can milk sympathy and approval by projecting herself as a sinner of personal limitations. We'll see. But as with Clinton and all these dogs, the truth comes out. Would I object to seeing some trumped up legal proceeding where Palin and all involved have to answer questions under penalty of perjury? Not at all. __________________ Live now-pay later. Diner's Club!
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09-01-2008, 04:11 PM	#9
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	What does "someone like that" mean? Someone who is conservative? She obviously has helped rally the conservative base who is less than thrilled with McCain. Someone with so little experience? If it experience that matters, then why be excited about Obama? Someone who has a track record of eliminating spending and opposing the party leadership, and calling out corrupt Republicans? I really have no idea what is offensive about this woman in the least. I have no doubt there are people exactly as have been described. I know people who support abortion because abortions have a higher rate among the african american population, and they are racists and want fewer african american people around. Pretty disgusting. But they exist. I don't think it would be a good idea to come on this board and say that people who support abortion do so for that reason. I think that mught rile a few people up. Apparently, though, painting with a broad brush like that is completely acceptable here when it comes to conservatives. It is offensive.
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