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I'm fine with it. It moves him a bit closer to me on several policy issues and I still like him as a candidate, leader, and being a clean break from the current institution of political power families.
McCain's changes just move him farther away from me on many of the issues he has changed on. And while Obama's changes may move him farther from the political center of his party towards the political center of the country, McCain's are moving him from the political center of the country towards the political center of his party. But I don't really think that either candidate has done nearly so much flip flopping as opponents enjoy pretending. They just stop allowing for any nuance of position and call it a flip flop. |
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Exactly, which is why I very much dislike him now.
Alas, McCain has moved even further from my happy place. Nader's on the ballot in California. I might vote for him. He might have become as untenable in his old age as McCain has in his ... but Nader hasn't got a chance, so I wouldn't have to worry about that. Obama has California locked up, so I might just vote my (past-tense) conscience and vote for Nader again (I picked him over Gore, too). |
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Paris responds to McCain's Celebrity ad
Okay, I can't stand her. But this is pretty funny. Snaps to her for being funny. ![]() |
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Only my reptilian brain has found Paris sexy. And even though I know her "energy policy" was scripted, she actually sounded intelligent and... human. For a minute there at least. And now, I... I think I'm in love.
She's got my vote, 'cuz that ad was hot. |
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She's a good actress. Her SNL appearance proved that.
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I'm not her, but immigration reform, for one off the top of my head.
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Waterboarding
Wiretapping Talking to "enemy" countries Abortion Here's a nice list, though there are plenty more. "mccain flip flop" came up as a common search.
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You know that game show from the 60's where a panal has to decide which one of 3 people is really a (fill in some job here)?
I am thinking Obama could play that game just as well as McCain....will the real President Bush please stand up ![]() http://jewishworldreview.com/0708/hanson071008.php3 Quote:
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I get 1660000 entries on google for McCain and "flip-flop", and I get 1620000 for Obama and "flip-flop". Pretty close.
And Obama just voted to renew FISA, didn't he? He has also come out recently against using "mental distress" as a health of the mother reason or late term abortions. I am not certin, so I definitely could be wrong, but isn't that a chnange of position for him? Those are certinaly not the extent of his recent changes, I was just highlighting a couple of the issues you had brought up which Obama has had a change in recently as well. Last edited by scaeagles : 08-07-2008 at 07:18 PM. |
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I didn't see anyone saying Obama hasn't flopped. All they have said is that his flipping has flopped him closer to their positions on the whole while McCain's have waffled his way further away from their positions.
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