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Old 08-29-2008, 02:11 PM   #1
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And I wonder how many times people thought not to vote because their state was going to lean one way and then, surprise, it went the other way on Election Day.
I wonder the same thing. That's why it's important to remind people to go out and vote. When the majority that brings the Dem vote to CA stay home because someone else will vote the other party will win and people will wonder why.
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Old 08-29-2008, 02:15 PM   #2
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And, with all due respect, I think people who find the Obama campaign uniquely inspiring (with respect to others, not themselves) are being a little short-sighted. The Clinton campaign had the same effect on people, and much of the same pie-in-the-sky hopes and promises and, may I say, much better speechifying inspired all that ... just as Obama is doing now.
I don't want to at all come of as saying this isn't true for you or your circle at the time. But as someone living on solidly liberal college campuses during both of Clinton's campaigns my feeling is that in that segment of the population Obama is far outshining the impact Clinton had. Among college kids the only politician I noticed having any impact during that era like Obama is now was Wellstone.

Whether that enthusiasm drives that group to actually vote remains to be seen.

But there is definitely also a tinge of the old thing where young people always think their experiences are the best ever. Anybody under 30 really experienced the Clinton campaigns. Kennedy is a essentially political myth to anybody under 60.
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Old 08-29-2008, 01:30 PM   #3
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AP reports that almost 40 million people watched Obama's speech. That's more people than watched the Olympics opening ceremony, this year's Academy Awards, or the finale of American Idol.
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Old 08-29-2008, 01:39 PM   #4
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Can't do anything in CA, eh? Check this out.

I will be in Europe for this first drive, but Oct, hmmmmmmmmm
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Old 08-29-2008, 01:42 PM   #5
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The chair of the county's Republican Party lives behind us and is having yet another fundraiser bbq tonight. Jack the beagle will be out in our yard arrroooooooing at the people on the other side of the fence.

Yes, we can.
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Old 08-29-2008, 03:12 PM   #6
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The chair of the county's Republican Party lives behind us and is having yet another fundraiser bbq tonight. Jack the beagle will be out in our yard arrroooooooing at the people on the other side of the fence.

Yes, we can.
What, you're not having a loud backyard BBQ yourself? With the loudest people you know?
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Old 08-29-2008, 01:45 PM   #7
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And Brad, I am not disagreeing with you, really. I know this isn't a lock for him, and he will have to fight. And when he fights, all of us have to stand with him, strong and unafraid of scrutiny. There was a reason Barack said in his speech that he is ready for to debate McCain regarding his ability to lead - because it will be a battle, and because it is important he win it.
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And Brad, I am not disagreeing with you, really. I know this isn't a lock for him, and he will have to fight. And when he fights, all of us have to stand with him, strong and unafraid of scrutiny. There was a reason Barack said in his speech that he is ready for to debate McCain regarding his ability to lead - because it will be a battle, and because it is important he win it.
There were a ton of things he said in his speech that made me extremely happy. He has a stronger fighting spirit it seems than Kerry. He addressed every single slam that was out there against him and was firm about it.
That made me very excited.
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Old 08-29-2008, 02:51 PM   #9
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Gore made me laugh (read it, didn't watch it). His hindsight as far as what the country would be like now should he have been elected was amazing.
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Old 08-29-2008, 02:57 PM   #10
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As Alex said, scaeagles, you're missing a good percentage of the effect of a speech if you merely read it.

Speeches, by their very nature, are not meant to be read. They are meant to be heard.
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