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Gemini Cricket · 09-30-2008, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

(disclaimer - I did not actually see the Couric interview. This is what I read, and I do not recall who wrote it up. It is entirely possible that I am wrong about this one and apologize if I am. I don't have time nor the desire to watch Couric).

Then you should have no opinion on the subject, imho.
Not seeing it nullifies your take on the interview.

That was like me arguing about The Passion of the Christ without even seeing it. I said, how can I have an opinion without doing the homework? So I saw it and then continued my rant...

Gemini Cricket · 09-30-2008, 08:24 PM

On another note, I had a wonderful conversation with Mum about politics tonight. It didn't get heated and we both were very cordial to each other. She worries about Palin's readiness to lead and is concerned about McCain's temper. She wants to like Obama, but she thinks he's not as smart as JFK. She also thinks that Michelle Obama is going to be another Hillary Clinton and be a puppeteer.

I asked her if she believed the silly rumor about Obama being a Muslim. And she said at first she did but is questioning it because there is no proof. I told her that he says he's a Christian. She wanted to know how long he was a Christian. I said it didn't matter, born again Christians are brand new and embraced by other Christians, so even if he was a 'new Christian' it shouldn't matter... Christian is Christian...

The most important part was that she was actually listening to my take on Obama. It was refreshing.

She honestly is considering protest voting. Leaving it blank. Which was interesting to hear. She is a die hard Republican (although she voted for Carter twice and loves loves loves JFK).

Oh, and she thought it was rude that McCain didn't look at Obama during the debate. She said she kept yelling at the TV for him to do just that.

scaeagles · 09-30-2008, 08:48 PM

Hey ISM - I don't know how I changed the subject. Seriously.

sleepyjeff · 09-30-2008, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

In any case, if Palin doesn't answer questions from the public and is only trotted out as MC for McC, while Obama does townhalls and shaking hands in restaurants and all the rest, then it's guaranteed that he's going to have more gaffes and blind spots.

I am torn here.....my initial reaction to this portion of your response is "good point, mathematically speaking Obama is probably making far less mistakes percentage wise than Palin based on the fact that he indeed is speaking far more than her"......

but, ...it's been pointed out that I am incapable of conceding a point and must dig my heels in, drink kool aid, write gibberish, etc.

What to do, what to do?

tracilicious · 09-30-2008, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

I am torn here.....my initial reaction to this portion of your response is "good point, mathematically speaking Obama is probably making far less mistakes percentage wise than Palin based on the fact that he indeed is speaking far more than her"......

In all fairness to iSm, if I had read this post from you I'd have to wonder if my browser were somehow mixing up posts with usernames. It's not exactly typical...

sleepyjeff · 10-01-2008, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by tracilicious

In all fairness to iSm, if I had read this post from you I'd have to wonder if my browser were somehow mixing up posts with usernames. It's not exactly typical...

Now I am torn again.....If I point out that just within my last 30 posts or so you will find me conceding on several points, it looks like I can't even agree with someone on something as mundane as ~what is typical~ but if I don't point that out than I am conceding that I rarely concede.....I am so confused

scaeagles · 10-01-2008, 04:50 AM

Obama is starting to move into landslide territory. Realclearpolitics shows him up by 158 electorals.

(psst....ISM....I suppose you may consider this a change in the subject, but since it is something that says Obama is doing well, I'm hoping you'll excuse it.)

lashbear · 10-01-2008, 05:15 AM

Isn't this thing over yet ???

...Geez, you USA'uns know how to spin out elections, don't ya ??

Strangler Lewis · 10-01-2008, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

The question about the "Bush doctrine" that he was so visibly disgusted that she didn't know what he was talking about, when in fact there have been 4 distinct Bush doctrines, and the one Gibson expanded upon isn't even regarded as the current one. I can post a link to a couple of write ups about it (Krauthammer did a good one) if anyone really is interested.

I read the Krauthammer piece, and my reaction then and now is that watching her answer, she couldn't have named any of them. Otherwise, she would have responded that his question was vague and explained why it was vague: "Well, Charlie, that's a phrase that's been thrown around a lot. Which Bush doctrine are you talking about? The one where . . ." And so on.

scaeagles · 10-01-2008, 06:25 AM

I certainly agree, Strangler. She isn't coming off as even a little bright. I would figure (hope?) she's smarter than she is interviewing.

My point wasn't that she would have been able to answer if it were more clear, it was Gibson's arrogance.

To be sure everyone understands what I'm saying, every politician needs to be able to deal with a hostile media, because even those that are loved one moment will be hated the next. Gotta be ready for it. She is not doing well. However, she's at a stage right now where I think the media ingeneral wants her to fail, and she isn't handling any of it well. Her fault. Her fault. Her fault. I write that three times so no one accuses me of trying to be a kool aid drinking synchophant (sp?). Once again, her fault.

09-30-2008, 08:24 PM	#2122
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	On another note, I had a wonderful conversation with Mum about politics tonight. It didn't get heated and we both were very cordial to each other. She worries about Palin's readiness to lead and is concerned about McCain's temper. She wants to like Obama, but she thinks he's not as smart as JFK. She also thinks that Michelle Obama is going to be another Hillary Clinton and be a puppeteer. I asked her if she believed the silly rumor about Obama being a Muslim. And she said at first she did but is questioning it because there is no proof. I told her that he says he's a Christian. She wanted to know how long he was a Christian. I said it didn't matter, born again Christians are brand new and embraced by other Christians, so even if he was a 'new Christian' it shouldn't matter... Christian is Christian... The most important part was that she was actually listening to my take on Obama. It was refreshing. She honestly is considering protest voting. Leaving it blank. Which was interesting to hear. She is a die hard Republican (although she voted for Carter twice and loves loves loves JFK). Oh, and she thought it was rude that McCain didn't look at Obama during the debate. She said she kept yelling at the TV for him to do just that.
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09-30-2008, 08:48 PM	#2123
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Hey ISM - I don't know how I changed the subject. Seriously. Last edited by scaeagles : 09-30-2008 at 09:02 PM.
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Obama is starting to move into landslide territory. Realclearpolitics shows him up by 158 electorals. (psst....ISM....I suppose you may consider this a change in the subject, but since it is something that says Obama is doing well, I'm hoping you'll excuse it.)
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lashbear SwishBuckling Bear Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In Isolation :) Posts: 6,597	Isn't this thing over yet ??? ...Geez, you USA'uns know how to spin out elections, don't ya ?? __________________ *I Heart* my Husband - I can't think of anyone I'd rather be in isolation with.**
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10-01-2008, 06:25 AM	#2130
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I certainly agree, Strangler. She isn't coming off as even a little bright. I would figure (hope?) she's smarter than she is interviewing. My point wasn't that she would have been able to answer if it were more clear, it was Gibson's arrogance. To be sure everyone understands what I'm saying, every politician needs to be able to deal with a hostile media, because even those that are loved one moment will be hated the next. Gotta be ready for it. She is not doing well. However, she's at a stage right now where I think the media ingeneral wants her to fail, and she isn't handling any of it well. Her fault. Her fault. Her fault. I write that three times so no one accuses me of trying to be a kool aid drinking synchophant (sp?). Once again, her fault.
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