A Prop 8 challenge for swankers

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Morrigoon

Amendments cannot be struck from the Constitution, they must be repealed by a subsequent amendment. So I sincerely hope someone is starting the signature-gathering effort RIGHT NOW for that amendment.

Originally Posted by Andrew

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[Andrew]

Originally Posted by Morrigoon

Amendments cannot be struck from the Constitution, they must be repealed by a subsequent amendment. So I sincerely hope someone is starting the signature-gathering effort RIGHT NOW for that amendment.

The matter under question is whether 8 is in fact a valid, legitimate amendment. The No-8 people say it isn't, because the kind of change implied by 8 has to be enacted by the Legislature and can't be done by Initiative.

[innerSpaceman]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

What do you remember as having the biggest impression on you? The kind of impression that ensured that your generation was instilled with a sense of tolerance and equality for people no like yourself. Was it details of court rulings? Or was it images like these:

^ awesome point.

Pictures speak a thousand words, don't they?


I was alive then. I remember it well, and all the Vietnam protests, too.


I don't remember any of the court rulings. Yawn.



That said, I'm confident this will be won in the Courts. And that's fine for California ... but does not help the rest of America in the way a voter affirmation of gay rights here would have.

Bah.

Sad cheese.

[Morrigoon]

I'm not ignoring that, BTD, one can hope that it is prevented from being added to the Constitution at all.

But just as they did not wait for gay marriage to be legalized before starting their amendment activities, let's not wait for their amendment to be legitimized before starting our own efforts to repeal it. IF 8 stays, why waste even a moment that could be spent working to repeal it?

[BarTopDancer]

I was talking to my co-worker who voted yes, and I started crying and he felt properly bad for participating in this and encouraging his children to take part and he realized he is not promoting tolerance, but intolerance.

It took putting a face to the pain, to who was hurt by this (hurting because your friends were just denied something by the majority of the state) for him to realize he messed up. I hope others come around - not in the backhanded way from the article above, but really come around.

[Chernabog]

Now that California voters have outlawed same-sex marriage, an LDS Church leader called Wednesday for members to heal any rifts caused by the emotional campaign by treating each other with "civility, with respect and with love."

What utter horsesh!t. I'd like to heal their rift with my fist, frankly.

I'm now of the opinion that the LDS Church is a horrible institution, not from some kind of misguided anti-religious irrational hysteria, but by its actions in the past few weeks. They have gone far beyond redemption.

[innerSpaceman]

TeeHee, just heard a cool story from a friend of mine. Her 17-year-old straight boy son was driving along, came upon a bunch of YesHead protesters and shouted out to them, "I Love Sucking Dick!!"

Hahahahahahah!

[CoasterMatt]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

TeeHee, just heard a cool story from a friend of mine. Her 17-year-old straight boy son was driving along, came upon a bunch of YesHead protesters and shouted out to them, "I Love Sucking Dick!!"

Hahahahahahah!

The other day, I saw a bunch of kids herded around by a guy, and he had them all holding "Yes On 8" signs - I yelled "Your dad's a **********, ask him what THAT means!"

[LSPoorEeyorick]

Are we carrying signs tonight?

[Chernabog]

Originally Posted by LSPoorEeyorick

Are we carrying signs tonight?

Isn't there a place right around our work? Like an Aaron Bros or something? I haven't taken a lunch yet, should I meet you there?