Obama - The first term - Page 3

Alex · 11-07-2008, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew

Obama had to deliberately dumb himself down to win the middle-of-the-road voters. Now, as President, he'll be the most intelligent guy who's ever held the office.

It is a nice thought but I'm going but I'll have to disagree (at least simply in terms of intelligence; Obama may well prove himself the most politically intelligent holder of the office).

Back in 1962, President Kennedy was addressing a White House dinner honoring something like 50 Nobel Prize winners in attendance. He said the following, and I think it will remain true after Obama as well.

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This is the most extraordinary collection of talent and of human knowledge that has ever been gathered together at the White House -- with the possible exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone.

Ghoulish Delight · 11-05-2008, 12:25 PM

I want to see the Constitutional mandate of separation of powers restored to a sane definition. I'd like the rule of law to be applied to ALL people, whether we suspect them of hating us or not. And I want to see the discourse in this country guided towards actual thought and discussion rather than hatred towards those we disagree with.

Alex · 11-07-2008, 05:07 PM

No matter what the only people fully satisfied by the first Obama term will be Republicans. Regardless of what happens by the end of four years the echo chamber will make sure he is viewed within the proper circles as exactly the worst things said about him.

For people who voted for him, at some point in the next four years he will disappoint you. You may still support him wholeheartedly but the shine will dim.

And that is if it goes well for him.

Cadaverous Pallor · 11-07-2008, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

No matter what the only people fully satisfied by the first Obama term will be Republicans. Regardless of what happens by the end of four years the echo chamber will make sure he is viewed within the proper circles as exactly the worst things said about him.

For people who voted for him, at some point in the next four years he will disappoint you. You may still support him wholeheartedly but the shine will dim.

And that is if it goes well for him.

I'd disagree in that there are some people who voted for him and don't expect him to part the Red Sea. I don't expect a whole lot of huge changes, and if all he does is be a dignified human being who isn't a war- and fear-monger, I'll be so happy.

Yeah, I know, all vague and simple, but still, I feel prepared for reality. I'm sure he'll support something I won't enjoy (like the bailout. I'm still not a fan). Oh hey, I just remembered - he isn't me.

I'm sure many people will be annoyed when he doesn't cure cancer but they are not smart people.

Disneyphile · 11-07-2008, 05:23 PM

I'd like to see our world image be repaired by approaching international conflicts with a civil approach.

I'd also like to see affordable healthcare and education for all. There was a point in my life that I worked 3 part-time jobs while racking up over $20K in student loans, while keeping a roof over my own head. I had no healthcare at that time, because I was only employed part-time. My health suffered during that time, as well as my dental care, simply because I couldn't afford it. To this day, my needed dental work is astronomical, mainly because of my past negligence due to no insurance. We really need to take care of the people in our country.

flippyshark · 11-07-2008, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Disneyphile

My health suffered during that time, as well as my dental care, simply because I couldn't afford it. To this day, my needed dental work is astronomical, mainly because of my past negligence due to no insurance. We really need to take care of the people in our country.

This is exactly where I am right now - working a bunch of part time jobs, paying for incredibly crappy insurance, and I have no dental coverage at all. I have SERIOUS dental problems, and I really don't know if I have any options right now except to watch my teeth fall apart and cry. (If anyone has any helpful hints, I'm in bad need of them.)

keith - SuPeR K! · 11-07-2008, 06:08 PM

Obama's first press conference as President-elect

I'm thoroughly impressed with Obama's jump start on making the government more transparent. He has already launched a website to make public the process of his transition into office available at change.gov. It's awesome to be able to have a resource like that and I am confident he will continue to offer such information via the web once he is in office. And on a side note, all of his websites are very well designed and standards compliant. Big props to his web team!

Morrigoon · 11-07-2008, 07:50 PM

If anybody's looking to request a position with Obama's government, go here:
http://change.gov/page/s/application

Alex · 11-07-2008, 10:47 PM

I've never been shy about the fact that while supporting Obama's presidency I don't necessarily agree with him on a lot of things politically.

I've been seeing word bandied about (I don't know how seriously) that Robert Kennedy Jr. is in contention for running EPA. If that were to happen, it would be a very significant disappointment out of the gate for me.

innerSpaceman · 11-08-2008, 01:22 AM

Just as the rumoured Treasury Secretary picks are for me.

11-05-2008, 12:25 PM	#2
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	I want to see the Constitutional mandate of separation of powers restored to a sane definition. I'd like the rule of law to be applied to ALL people, whether we suspect them of hating us or not. And I want to see the discourse in this country guided towards actual thought and discussion rather than hatred towards those we disagree with. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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11-07-2008, 05:07 PM	#3
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	No matter what the only people fully satisfied by the first Obama term will be Republicans. Regardless of what happens by the end of four years the echo chamber will make sure he is viewed within the proper circles as exactly the worst things said about him. For people who voted for him, at some point in the next four years he will disappoint you. You may still support him wholeheartedly but the shine will dim. And that is if it goes well for him.
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Disneyphile SQUIRREL! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: On the curbside. Posts: 5,098	I'd like to see our world image be repaired by approaching international conflicts with a civil approach. I'd also like to see affordable healthcare and education for all. There was a point in my life that I worked 3 part-time jobs while racking up over $20K in student loans, while keeping a roof over my own head. I had no healthcare at that time, because I was only employed part-time. My health suffered during that time, as well as my dental care, simply because I couldn't afford it. To this day, my needed dental work is astronomical, mainly because of my past negligence due to no insurance. We really need to take care of the people in our country.
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11-07-2008, 06:08 PM	#7
keith - SuPeR K! Community Fruit Join Date: May 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 547	Obama's first press conference as President-elect I'm thoroughly impressed with Obama's jump start on making the government more transparent. He has already launched a website to make public the process of his transition into office available at change.gov. It's awesome to be able to have a resource like that and I am confident he will continue to offer such information via the web once he is in office. And on a side note, all of his websites are very well designed and standards compliant. Big props to his web team!
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11-07-2008, 07:50 PM	#8
Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	If anybody's looking to request a position with Obama's government, go here: http://change.gov/page/s/application __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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11-07-2008, 10:47 PM	#9
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I've never been shy about the fact that while supporting Obama's presidency I don't necessarily agree with him on a lot of things politically. I've been seeing word bandied about (I don't know how seriously) that Robert Kennedy Jr. is in contention for running EPA. If that were to happen, it would be a very significant disappointment out of the gate for me.
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11-08-2008, 01:22 AM	#10
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Just as the rumoured Treasury Secretary picks are for me.
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