Tis the season...deja vu anyone?

[Disneyphile]

Originally Posted by flippyshark

Sorry, Disneyphile. I'm a skeptic, and couldn't disagree more with your assessment. Speaking for myself, I'm kind, sentimental, fun-loving and out for as many hedons as the next guy. I know many many others in the skeptical (or freethought, secular humanist, etc) movement who are also wonderful, life affirming, positive people. There are asshats in every congregation. Please don't let a few bad apples harden you. Blinking cat or no, your post is calling me stupid, insecure and vindictive, only by virtue of having been lobbed far too broadly. There are lots of us good guys out there. Some of us are skeptics. Try to meet a few. You'll be glad you did.

I was being facetious.

[flippyshark]

Originally Posted by Disneyphile

I was being facetious.

I'm happy to know that. I just hope it isn't "kidding on the square."

[Disneyphile]

Originally Posted by flippyshark

I'm happy to know that. I just hope it isn't "kidding on the square."

Nope. It wasn't even remotely directed at the skeptics that I've known for sometime now.

[€uroMeinke]

And the proof of free will is?

(I think there are those in the scientific community that dispute that - though I'm not one of them - or even a member of the scientific community)

Sorry you think my Lapland remark mocking, but I'm an existentialist with heavy phenomenological leanings - thus there is no truth other than what we create. For my personal experience that puts God and Lapland in the same category, though I've chosen to believe on and not the other, how could I fault someoen with thinking differently.

As to the horrors of religion on the world, I would broaden those to belong to people who claim to know truth - then you could lump the secular dogmatists (i.e. Nazis, Communists, etc.) in that category as well.

[Not Afraid]

Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

As to the horrors of religion on the world, I would broaden those to belong to people who claim to know truth - then you could lump the secular dogmatists (i.e. Nazis, Communists, etc.) in that category as well.

This point bears repeating. Religion didn't invent horrors, nor are the religious the sole practitioners of them, but those that do create horrors do all seem to share a certain affinity for one particular concept.........I'm right and you're not.

[Sir Dillon]

Originally Posted by Not Afraid

This point bears repeating. Religion didn't invent horrors,

So the inquisition, malleus maleficarum, crusades, etc. were not motivated/initiated (i.e. premised upon) religion?

nor are the religious the sole practitioners of them, but those that do create horrors do all seem to share a certain affinity for one particular concept.........I'm right and you're not.

Agreed

[Not Afraid]

Originally Posted by Sir Dillon

So the inquisition, malleus maleficarum, crusades, etc. were not motivated/initiated (i.e. premised upon) religion?

That wasn't my point.

[Sir Dillon]

Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

And the proof of free will is?

(I think there are those in the scientific community that dispute that - though I'm not one of them - or even a member of the scientific community)

Sorry you think my Lapland remark mocking, but I'm an existentialist with heavy phenomenological leanings - thus there is no truth other than what we create. For my personal experience that puts God and Lapland in the same category, though I've chosen to believe on and not the other, how could I fault someoen with thinking differently.

As to the horrors of religion on the world, I would broaden those to belong to people who claim to know truth - then you could lump the secular dogmatists (i.e. Nazis, Communists, etc.) in that category as well.

Agreed.

[Betty]

Would you feel differently if this was a paid for billboard or side of bus advertisment?

[Bornieo: Fully Loaded]

pfft. Since "god" hasn't posted here, I doubt he exists...