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Old 12-05-2008, 04:26 PM   #1
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I'm really confused as to why you feel the need to be hostile to me. and I'm not interesting in playing tit-for-tat. You're asking me to defend positions I haven't taken and have for some reason come to a very skewed conclusion about where I stand.

You seem to be pretty emotional about this subject, so I think it's best I step out as I was simply trying to have a discussion.
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Old 12-05-2008, 04:34 PM   #2
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I'm really confused as to why you feel the need to be hostile to me. and I'm not interesting in playing tit-for-tat. You're asking me to defend positions I haven't taken and have for some reason come to a very skewed conclusion about where I stand.

You seem to be pretty emotional about this subject, so I think it's best I step out as I was simply trying to have a discussion.
It kind of feeds into my theory on life: Fanatics are hard to talk to no matter what subject or which side they are fanatical about.
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Old 12-05-2008, 04:38 PM   #3
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It kind of feeds into my theory on life: Fanatics are hard to talk to no matter what subject or which side they are fanatical about.
True, but I am not fanatical about the subject. Just informed, educated, and well read on it.

In other words, I can effectively debate and hold my own on the topic.

I discuss what I know...NOT I guess or feel; which is what "fanatics" do, yes?

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Old 12-05-2008, 04:45 PM   #4
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True, but I am not fanatical about the subject. Just informed, educated, and well read on it.

In other words, I can effectively debate and hold my own on the topic.

I discuss what I know...NOT I guess or feel; which is what "fanatics" do, yes?

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We've gone around a bit, can you refresh me on what "the subject" is?

Are you arguing for the right to post a stupid sign or in support of the silly message on the stupid sign?
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Old 12-05-2008, 04:52 PM   #5
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We've gone around a bit, can you refresh me on what "the subject" is?

Are you arguing for the right to post a stupid sign or in support of the silly message on the stupid sign?
Do you honestly expect me to answer such a fallaciously based question?

By declaring the sign and/or its message as "stupid" is patently subjective, not to mention fallacious.

Just because you disagree with the statement (and ascribed the ubsubstantiated label of "stupid") does not invalidate the statement.

Notwithstanding, the "bottom line" is those who disbelieve in religion have THE SAME RIGHT as those who do believe in religion to their expression, whether publicly or privately.

This issue is a matter of public display, obviously...and under the 1st Amendment non-religious people have the same freedom/equal access to the Capitol of Washington as religious people do.

However, religious people are claiming the 'special pleading fallacy' in that they, and only they, have such a right; and non-religious people DO NOT have this right.

That, in and of itself, is not only immoral and flies in the face of common sense; it is patently unconstitutional (not to mention hypocritical).

That "is the subject" of this thread.



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Old 12-05-2008, 04:36 PM   #6
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I'm really confused as to why you feel the need to be hostile to me...
Sorry you've interpreted my responses so personally...as none were intended that way. I've been merely replying to that which you state (i.e. your written responses as they've been written and argued based on that and that only...not you "personally").

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...and I'm not interesting in playing tit-for-tat.
Neither am I; however, you've made your responses making specific comments about and in contrast to the display 'against' (I use the term losely) the disbelief in religious dogma; that, again forgive me if I am wrong, appears to be in more support of the freedom of religious believers to produce their displays while denying the same freedom to those who are not religious.

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You're asking me to defend positions I haven't taken and have for some reason come to a very skewed conclusion about where I stand.
I have skewed nothing as I am merely responding to what you write and post in response to my posts.

Seriously...if you say 'white,' I'm going to say 'black.'

Again, just responding to what you write; nothing more, nothing less. Nothing personal.

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You seem to be pretty emotional about this subject...
Not emotional but passionate....which is often misconstrued or incorrectly labeled as being negatively emotional.

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...so I think it's best I step out as I was simply trying to have a discussion.
I too was partaking in a "discussion"; but if you deem it necessary to bow out, then I respectfully agree to disagree.

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Old 12-05-2008, 04:48 PM   #7
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Isn't it true though that if we relied only on what we already know to be true, there'd be no advancement in science? It is only a belief that we do not know everything that pushes us forward.

Maybe I'm a weirdo in that I don't believe science and faith in god to be mutually exclusive.
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Old 12-05-2008, 04:52 PM   #8
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I'm tempted to take the other side to see if you really can hold your own, but heading into the weekend I haven't the energy for it. If it is still going on Monday I just may.
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Old 12-05-2008, 04:55 PM   #9
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I'm tempted to take the other side to see if you really can hold your own, but heading into the weekend I haven't the energy for it. If it is still going on Monday I just may.
Then I look forward to Monday

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Old 12-05-2008, 04:55 PM   #10
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