No BBQ's in Apartments - Page 2

LashStoat · 01-04-2009, 01:41 PM

Hi KatieSue,

Having read page 35 as provided by JW, you can put an LPG-fuelled BBQ hard-up against a dry brush fence as long as the bottle doesn't exceed a 1 pound gas capacity.

Just why a 1 pound bottle is less of a risk than a 1.001 pound bottle, and why it's OK to (potentially) burn down a 1 or 2 family dwelling (as opposed to a 3 family dwelling) with it is anyone's guess. It always amuses me that the more detail that is put into this kind of document, the more loopholes are accidentally included...so I guess you could use a 50 pound butane bottle without issue, as butane isn't mentioned.

Glancing over other parts of the document, it appears that you Americans can thank the Darwin Award nominees that put whole frozen turkeys into boiling oil and recreate the Pompeii eruption (as can be seen in many a YouTube clip).

Anyways, as my cheesy footer says, it's all for the grater good.

Love and hugs,

The Stoat XXX.

LashStoat · 01-05-2009, 01:13 AM

Dear All,

The California Fire Dept. wishes to advise that all BBQs and fireplaces must comply with the recently published building code. Due to loopholes in the previous regulations, approved "Flame Containers" will be described by the brick count.

As an indication, the brick count for a BBQ/Fireplace as deemed safe for a single family residence is 12,792. Officers have been instructed that structures constructed of a brick count less than this number for a single family residence are to be considered in breach of the regulations.

Furthermore, the required brick count increases proportionally to the number of families living in the annexed dwelling as follows:

1 Family = 12,792
2 Families = 1 Family's brick count times 1.5 (this is known as the coefficient of safety, as prescribed by Dolores Umbridge, Director of California Fire Inc.).

..and so the scale goes.

As Dolores so eloquently put it: "The fuel used does not matter - it's all about the brick count".

Below is a picture of a compliant 1 Family BBQ/Fireplace:

Strangler Lewis · 01-05-2009, 07:42 AM

The regulation does carve out an exception for one and two family dwellings. The right to burn your house down-another benefit of home ownership.

Stan4dSteph · 01-05-2009, 07:51 AM

I thought this was actually going to be about grills inside houses. It happens every year when there is a power outage -- some idiots try to cook on their grill inside their house or attached garage and get carbon monoxide poisoning. I suppose it's a modern form of natural selection.

LashStoat · 01-05-2009, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis

The regulation does carve out an exception for one and two family dwellings. The right to burn your house down-another benefit of home ownership.

Yup..and I'm gonna get me a 5 pound bottle, some marsh mallows and some LPG...and if that don't work, it's off to Walmart to buy a deep-fryin' can and a frozen Tur-Ducken.

Ghoulish Delight · 01-05-2009, 08:22 AM

I wonder how they define "combustible construction." Our condo is obviously not fireproof, but the exterior is covered in stucco, not particularly combustible. And our fences around our patio were just replaced by vinyl. So there really isn't much exposed flammable construction material back there, so perhaps we are in the clear?

Morrigoon · 01-05-2009, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

I wonder how they define "combustible construction." Our condo is obviously not fireproof, but the exterior is covered in stucco, not particularly combustible. And our fences around our patio were just replaced by vinyl. So there really isn't much exposed flammable construction material back there, so perhaps we are in the clear?

Ooooh, vinyl fencing is nice stuff. I'd love to put that in around our patio. Some of my neighbors have it and it looks great.

mousepod · 01-05-2009, 09:12 AM

Last night, I saw a cool episode of Deconstruction on the DIY Network that talked about fireproof materials. This link may or may not work...

Prudence · 01-05-2009, 09:41 AM

Back home the BBQ restriction is coupled with a Christmas tree prohibition. Is that also the case in California? (Doesn't matter for me personally, as mine is fake.)

LashStoat · 01-05-2009, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Prudence

Back home the BBQ restriction is coupled with a Christmas tree prohibition. Is that also the case in California? (Doesn't matter for me personally, as mine is fake.)

You've got to be kidding me right? What next...no Santa?

...or even worse, no eggnog? <hiccup>........</hiccup>

01-04-2009, 01:41 PM	#1
LashStoat There's a hole in the Bin Liner... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Merry Old Land of OZ. Posts: 428	Hi KatieSue, Having read page 35 as provided by JW, you can put an LPG-fuelled BBQ hard-up against a dry brush fence as long as the bottle doesn't exceed a 1 pound gas capacity. Just why a 1 pound bottle is less of a risk than a 1.001 pound bottle, and why it's OK to (potentially) burn down a 1 or 2 family dwelling (as opposed to a 3 family dwelling) with it is anyone's guess. It always amuses me that the more detail that is put into this kind of document, the more loopholes are accidentally included...so I guess you could use a 50 pound butane bottle without issue, as butane isn't mentioned. Glancing over other parts of the document, it appears that you Americans can thank the Darwin Award nominees that put whole frozen turkeys into boiling oil and recreate the Pompeii eruption (as can be seen in many a YouTube clip). Anyways, as my cheesy footer says, it's all for the grater good. Love and hugs, The Stoat XXX. __________________
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Strangler Lewis Doing The Job Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a state Posts: 3,956	The regulation does carve out an exception for one and two family dwellings. The right to burn your house down-another benefit of home ownership. __________________ Live now-pay later. Diner's Club!
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Stan4dSteph Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: East Bay Area, CA Posts: 3,156	I thought this was actually going to be about grills inside houses. It happens every year when there is a power outage -- some idiots try to cook on their grill inside their house or attached garage and get carbon monoxide poisoning. I suppose it's a modern form of natural selection.
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Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	I wonder how they define "combustible construction." Our condo is obviously not fireproof, but the exterior is covered in stucco, not particularly combustible. And our fences around our patio were just replaced by vinyl. So there really isn't much exposed flammable construction material back there, so perhaps we are in the clear? __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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mousepod You broke your Ramadar! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,635	Last night, I saw a cool episode of Deconstruction on the DIY Network that talked about fireproof materials. This link may or may not work... __________________ "Give the public everything you can give them, keep the place as clean as you can keep it, keep it friendly" - Walt Disney
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