"They blew up their poster boy" - Page 2

wendybeth · 05-23-2005, 05:14 PM

I realise 'friendly fire' is a fact of war- it's amazing that it doesn't happen with more frequency. What I find inexcusable is the attempt to cover it up, and then wrap it up in the guise that they did. We all know why they did so- as his family said, he was the Army's 'poster boy', and they continued to try to perpetuate the image even after his death, by manipulating the facts and destroying evidence. Couple this with the fact that recruitment efforts have been temporarily halted due to difficulties with officers making false promises and lying in their paperwork, etc. Any bets on when the draft will start up?

Gemini Cricket · 05-23-2005, 07:52 PM

Well, at least we still have Jessica Lynch and the brave story of how she was rescued out of the clutches of the evil doers...

Oh, wait...

BarTopDancer · 05-23-2005, 08:01 PM

WHY did I open this thread.

The people who ordered the cover up should be courtmartialed, sentenced to loss of rank and pay, forced to pay some sort of restitution, sentenced to life of hard labor. Death is to easy of a punishment.

Motorboat Cruiser · 05-26-2005, 02:10 PM

Yeah, I would like an assertion like that backed up as well. I won't hold my breath though because I don't think it can be.

Nephythys · 05-26-2005, 02:15 PM

fine-
I'll get you some links. But thank you for casting aspersions on me personally when I said it was not anyone here-but to suit you, since you think it is not so....I will find them.

Isn't it sad to find out that people who you consider of like mind would do such a thing?

Patience- the story and links are old, but you will have them.

Tref · 05-26-2005, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Nephythys

fine-
I'll get you some links. But thank you for casting aspersions on me personally ...

Hello! Methinks you may be mis-construing my (our) words a bit ... I can not believe anybody would delight in the death of a soldier -- any soldier.

Nephythys · 05-26-2005, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tref

Hello! Methinks you may be mis-construing my (our) words a bit ... I can not believe anybody would delight in the death of a soldier -- any soldier.

It is horrid isn't it-

First Link

More to come I am sure-

Apologies for being sensitive- but I do not spend my time making things up to cause uproar- I stated a fact, not a false assertion. It WAS libs who celebrated his death- and showed callousness and heartlessness. It is a shame when anyone lacks compassion for someone just because they do not approve of the war.

Not Afraid · 05-26-2005, 03:03 PM

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It WAS libs who celebrated his death- and showed callousness and heartlessness. It is a shame when anyone lacks compassion for someone just because they do not approve of the war.

Ummmm, no. By your statement ALL libs celebrated. I can assure you that this is not the case. There may have been some individuals who were lacking in compassion for this particular situation because it outweighed the tragedy of the war, but I know that you cannon make a blanket statement about all Libs thinking ONE particular way about this issue.

From my experience with Liberals, they are usually much more independent thinkers than that - personal experience (and living in California) being they key there.

scaeagles · 05-26-2005, 02:23 PM

As Tillman was a Phoenix Cardinal, I heard many interviews here with people who derided him as stupid for putting his love of country above a million dollar NFL contract for an "unjust war". I don't know how wide spread it was, but there were certainly quite a few people I heard that said he "got what he deserved" for being that stupid.

Now, can you find a nutjob in any area of the political spectrum that will say anything? Of course. But these things were being said, and it was.....sickening and sad to listen to it. I would typically listen so that I could hear the interviewer rip the person to shreds.

Ghoulish Delight · 05-26-2005, 02:47 PM

Not to be glib, but are you seriously equating random message board posts with an effort by high ranking military officials and possibly elected officials to tell blatant lies?

05-23-2005, 05:14 PM	#1
wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	I realise 'friendly fire' is a fact of war- it's amazing that it doesn't happen with more frequency. What I find inexcusable is the attempt to cover it up, and then wrap it up in the guise that they did. We all know why they did so- as his family said, he was the Army's 'poster boy', and they continued to try to perpetuate the image even after his death, by manipulating the facts and destroying evidence. Couple this with the fact that recruitment efforts have been temporarily halted due to difficulties with officers making false promises and lying in their paperwork, etc. Any bets on when the draft will start up? __________________
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Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	Well, at least we still have Jessica Lynch and the brave story of how she was rescued out of the clutches of the evil doers... Oh, wait...
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BarTopDancer Prepping... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Here, there, everywhere Posts: 11,405	WHY did I open this thread. The people who ordered the cover up should be courtmartialed, sentenced to loss of rank and pay, forced to pay some sort of restitution, sentenced to life of hard labor. Death is to easy of a punishment. __________________ Spork is the new MacGyver Postcards From My Edge
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Motorboat Cruiser Cruiser of Motorboats Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: So Cal Posts: 3,665	Yeah, I would like an assertion like that backed up as well. I won't hold my breath though because I don't think it can be.
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05-26-2005, 02:15 PM	#5
Nephythys Yeah, that's about it- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a state of constant crap to get done Posts: 2,688	fine- I'll get you some links. But thank you for casting aspersions on me personally when I said it was not anyone here-but to suit you, since you think it is not so....I will find them. Isn't it sad to find out that people who you consider of like mind would do such a thing? Patience- the story and links are old, but you will have them.
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05-26-2005, 02:23 PM	#9
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	As Tillman was a Phoenix Cardinal, I heard many interviews here with people who derided him as stupid for putting his love of country above a million dollar NFL contract for an "unjust war". I don't know how wide spread it was, but there were certainly quite a few people I heard that said he "got what he deserved" for being that stupid. Now, can you find a nutjob in any area of the political spectrum that will say anything? Of course. But these things were being said, and it was.....sickening and sad to listen to it. I would typically listen so that I could hear the interviewer rip the person to shreds.
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05-26-2005, 02:47 PM	#10
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Not to be glib, but are you seriously equating random message board posts with an effort by high ranking military officials and possibly elected officials to tell blatant lies? __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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