Star Trek

[mousepod]

Originally Posted by blueerica

Huh? I started the thread?

Am I on an alternate timeline?

The Transformers thread.

[RStar]

Originally Posted by mousepod

The Transformers thread.

What's that got to do with this thread, the one I started the day Star Trek came out?

Anyway, this thread has been interesting, answering some of the questions I had during the movie......

Oh, and a pet peeve of mine.....

People on the news or TV that continually call it "Star Track".....

[Chernabog]

Originally Posted by RStar

Elphaba from Wicked decided to join Star Fleet rather than become a witch.

Bwahahahahah!

(Now I have "So if you care to find me... look to the Vulcan sky!" stuck in my head...)

[Jazzman]

I forgot about the Nokia thing. Yeah, that was pretty lame. The Budweiser thing was a little jarring too, but neither was as bad as Baby Kirk's awful, awful wig. When the camera initially panned down on him in the Vette I instantly thought, "WTF? Billy Idol is a car thief in Star Trek?" But thankfully that whole sequence ended quickly and didn't recur, so I wasn't to caught up in it.

I have to say that I'm surprised that so many people are reacting so negatively to the film, but then again, I was one of the few people I know who absolutely despised Transformers, so obviously some films just strike that chord in some people. I wonder, though, if for a large segment of the population this film was doomed from the start as seeing such beloved characters recast and in new surroundings was just too much to swallow.

[Alex]

I'm sure that is happening to some degree, but most of the nay crowd I've seen has said something like "I'm fine with the reboot and liked the characters but the story was just so stupid..."

So I think it is coming down to how well the good things could counter the bad things and that just varies a lot from person to person.

Most here have acknowledged that everythign I've labeled stupid was in fact stupid but they don't care because they were having enough fun and liked the characters. For me I cared enough that it took the edge off the pleasure but I still enjoyed it while watching it and then as I thought about it later it began degrading.

Others just couldn't get into the groove.

[Ghoulish Delight]

I just chatted with the biggest Trek geek I know (he contributed to the Star Trek Encyclopedia and worked on StarTrek.com). He loved it.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

It's the internet, bad reviews almost always outnumber good, especially in early going. People are far more motivated to bitch online than praise. An 8.6 out of 10 at imdb puts it in the top 40 movies of ALL TIME on imdb. The highest rated is a 9.1.

Not that I put much stock in imdb ratings seeing that that 9.1 is Shawshank Redmption (an enjoyable flick, but highest rated movie of all time? Seriously?) But even so, a 96% from the critics and an 88% from the community at RT? iSm's 96% might have been an out of thin air number, but it's not much of an exageration. Hell, Citizen Kane only has 90% from the community at RT. So yeah, I don't think it's much hyperbole to say, "Nearly everyone who's seen this movie has liked it."

I'm not saying it isn't popular. I was just pointing out that iSm's claim was… Um… inflated a bit.

Honestly, I wouldn’t give a damn if it was getting a 99.9999% approval rating. It would still be a piece of shyt movie as far as I’m concerned.

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

I just chatted with the biggest Trek geek I know (he contributed to the Star Trek Encyclopedia and worked on StarTrek.com). He loved it.

And one of the biggest Star Trek fans I know hates it. So?

(So far, I haven’t heard Bjo Trimble’s opinion yet. It will be interesting to hear; she’s the T’Pau Trek fandom.)

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Originally Posted by mousepod

If Earth-2 Spock hadn't come back, and Nero had exacted his revenge on Earth-1 Spock, then I might have let it go... but the showdown wasn't a showdown and the anomaly served only to let Abrams and crew reboot the series.

So I felt manipulated and cheated. And I was mad.

I realized this as well, and it was all I could do to stay in my seat instead of jumping up and screaming in joy, "THEY DID IT!!! THEY REBOOTED THE SERIES!!!"

Each to his own.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by JWBear

Honestly, I wouldn’t give a damn if it was getting a 99.9999% approval rating. It would still be a piece of shyt movie as far as I’m concerned.

Can't argue that your reaction to it is your reaction, just pointing out that iSm was not wildly off the mark with his guesstimate.

And one of the biggest Star Trek fans I know hates it. So?

(So far, I haven’t heard Bjo Trimble’s opinion yet. It will be interesting to hear; she’s the T’Pau Trek fandom.)

Neither carries any more weight than the other. And one of my friend's colleagues who also worked on the Encyclopedia and website and other stuff walked out on it. I didn't post that as an attempt to call it an authoritative view on the quality of the movie. I guess my point is that one can argue whether you enjoy the movie on whole or not, but when someone who literally wrote the book on what is "canon" is okay with it, I personally take that as license to ignore appeals to canon as a reason to hate it (which I don't think anyone here really has done, so not aimed at anyone here who didn't like the movie for their own reasons).

[CoasterMatt]

There's a new Star Trek movie?