Lost!

[Ghoulish Delight]

I think the direction they were going is that his new discovery that it might be possible to change the past had changed his attitude, made him more in charge and assertive.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

This is starting to look a lot like that episode of Star Trek: Next Generation, where they got stuck in a time loop and they kept going 'round and 'round until finally Data figured out a way to pass a message on to the next time loop that gave them enough of a clue to break the loop (like, say, a sequence of numbers).

I think you're right.......of course, the creators of Lost probably never watch Star Trek

[Stan4dSteph]

Sobek

[scaeagles]

Last night set up an interesting final season.

[BarTopDancer]

I wonder if that was the original incident at the Swan or if them hitting the electromagnetic pocket was the original incident that required the button pushing.

Does anyone remember what the station is where Desmond turned the key?

[Ghoulish Delight]

A bit of a cheat introducing entirely new characters and story to create the cliffhanger. And having some ancient dude transmute himself into looking like Locke pushes things further into the realm of the supernatural. I didn't really love the finale and am less than optimistic about how much I'll like the final season. All of the characters entirely switching motivations on a whim is getting tiresome.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

"I changed my mind". Dunh dunh DUNH!!!! Um, lame.

"Why do you really want to blow up the island?" Jack/Juliet: "Because I'm heartbroken." What??? Not because you hate the goddamned island? Both of them have to have relationship reasons? Lame.

Quick, here's a flashback explaining why Juliet pushes men away! Ok, now immediately have the scene where she pushes Sawyer away! Ok, that's a wrap.

Open the show with the guy who ends up being Locke! Now, reveal that it's him at the end of the show!

They had all season to set up an awesome finale, but instead they crammed it in the last minute. Lazy, sloppy, and not at all effective.

The only moment I actually enjoyed was Juliet going down the chute, because I think Sawyer is at his best when he's losing something. Emotional scene, done well. An anomaly in a sea of WTF.

Oh, and Jacob?? "Here's a pen." "Here's a candy bar." "Talk to me for a second so your beloved gets killed." WHA? And not WHA? in a good way.

This finale left a bad taste in my mouth, which I hope dissipates by 2010.

[BarTopDancer]

The other people who were killed in the fire arrow fight were all non-speaking parts, so them all being killed doesn't really bother me. Easier to do that and focus on the real story line instead of making up random stories like they did for Palo and Nikki. I love that they showed Rose and Bernard in 1977 and being "retired" and Vincent. Hooray for alive doggie!

I was sucked in with Jacob and the dark haired man (good vs. evil?) in the beginning but showing Jacob meeting everyone randomly quickly grew tiresome. Why did he pick those people to meet? Is the dark haired man "the island" - is he the smoke monster, Kate's horse, Christian Sheppard* and notLocke?

And what happened to the kidnapped children and people who disappeared during season 1?

[JWBear]

I think I’m beginning to figure things out… There is a power struggle between Jacob and the other guy – the one he was talking to on the beach. (One of the other boards I read are calling this guy “Esau”; so for simplicity’s sake, so will I) There is something that keeps them from attacking each other directly.

At some point (after the purge?), Esau was trapped in the cabin. The ring of ash kept him from escaping. Ben took Locke to the cabin, thinking this is where Jacob was. Esau was long haired guy we saw; the one that asked Locke for help. Locke broke the ring of ash, thus allowing Esau to escape.

Esau is the one who has been taking the shapes of dead people on the island. It was Esau we saw in the form of Christian, Alex, Eko’s brother, etc. It is Esau who is impersonating Lock.

Esau got Locke to leave the island (and perhaps Ben too). When Locke’s dead body came back to the island, Esau took Locke’s form.

It was Esau/Locke that told Richard to tell PastLocke that he needed to die to save the island.

It was Esau that told Locke to turn the frozen donkey wheel.

It was Esau in the form of Alex that told Ben to do everything Locke said.

Esau has been manipulating Locke and Ben; and he used the time skipping to carry out his plan to defeat Jacob.

I’m sure Hawking and Widmore are working for opposite sides. I’m just not sure yet who is working for which side.


ETA: And I hope Jacob is the good guy, 'cause the actor playing him is totaly hawt!

[SzczerbiakManiac]

This guy posits that Smokey and Esau are the same entity. It makes sense to me.