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Cadaverous Pallor · 05-15-2009, 10:46 AM

If Esau, a character they just made up, really is behind everything then I'm super pissed.

Stan4dSteph · 05-15-2009, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

If Esau, a character they just made up, really is behind everything then I'm super pissed.

He's not a new character, we're just finally seeing him in his possibly original form. The scene on the beach appears to be from the Black Rock era, but from the dialogue it's clear that Jacob and Esau have been around for a while at that point.

BarTopDancer · 05-15-2009, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Stan4dSteph

He's not a new character, we're just finally seeing him in his possibly original form. The scene on the beach appears to be from the Black Rock era, but from the dialogue it's clear that Jacob and Esau have been around for a while at that point.

I was thinking the same thing. When I saw the ship I was thinking it may be the Black Rock. I hope they show more of that era and how the ship ended up so far inland.

Cadaverous Pallor · 05-15-2009, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Stan4dSteph

He's not a new character, we're just finally seeing him in his possibly original form. The scene on the beach appears to be from the Black Rock era, but from the dialogue it's clear that Jacob and Esau have been around for a while at that point.

Yes, I understand that. They made that clear in this one episode. Has anything in any of the prior episodes alluded to a dark horse, at all? I sincerely doubt it.

"How do we reconcile conflicting motives? Create a character that was 'there all along'." Last minute, made up bullsh1t. I call Shenanigans.

BarTopDancer · 05-15-2009, 11:56 AM

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Yes, I understand that. They made that clear in this one episode. Has anything in any of the prior episodes alluded to a dark horse, at all? I sincerely doubt it.

"How do we reconcile conflicting motives? Create a character that was 'there all along'." Last minute, made up bullsh1t. I call Shenanigans.

Huh? We've already seen him in Jacob's cabin. He's the guy that everyone thought was Locke. Speculation that the "island" was smoky, Kate's horse and Christian were wrong, unless he is also "the island". There have always been themes of good vs. evil.

I'm confused as to why you think he is a new character.

Cadaverous Pallor · 05-15-2009, 03:31 PM

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Huh? We've already seen him in Jacob's cabin. He's the guy that everyone thought was Locke. Speculation that the "island" was smoky, Kate's horse and Christian were wrong, unless he is also "the island". There have always been themes of good vs. evil.

I'm confused as to why you think he is a new character.

I'll try one more time.

Up until last night, the presence in Jacob's cabin was Jacob. Locke was Locke. Ghostly apparitions were either interpreted as Jacob, or rather, the Island's intentions manifest as Jacob being Christian etc.

As they've done many times before, they have a new head pop up to be the be-all-end-all answer to everything. Who is the ultimate adversary? It's Ben and the Others. No, it's Dharma, see they were here before. No, meet this guy named Widmore, he's totally it. No, there's this supernatural island presence called Jacob, he's running the show. No, check out this guy Richard, he never ages. No, here, meet ANOTHER SUPERNATURAL GUY, he was at the bottom of this THE WHOLE TIME, totally seriously you gotta believe us. How dare you say that there was no evidence of him before and that we just made him up last minute?!

Maybe it's me, maybe I'm just sick of being bait and switched. Maybe I am over getting Animal Farmed, with the words on the barn door getting changed every time I watch an episode.

How many other things need to be "revealed"? How many times do I have to be told that I wasn't told anything to begin with? By this standard they could do an ultimate final episode where everything we know was utter bullsh1t. Maybe there's yet another man behind the curtain behind the yet another man behind the curtain behind yet another....

SzczerbiakManiac · 05-15-2009, 10:47 AM

In the beginning of the episode, when Jacob and Esau were on the beach, Jacob was wearing a white shirt with light pants. Esau was wearing a black shirt and dark pants. Ergo, Esau is clearly the bad guy because everybody knows the good guys wear white.

innerSpaceman · 05-15-2009, 03:47 PM

So ... I've never seen a minute of the current season. Should I stop right where I am?

Cadaverous Pallor · 05-15-2009, 03:54 PM

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So ... I've never seen a minute of the current season. Should I stop right where I am?

Why are you reading this thread? It's all spoiled.

innerSpaceman · 05-15-2009, 04:15 PM

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Why are you reading this thread? It's all spoiled.

Heheh, not with my memory, which is just that nowadays.

By the time the DVDs come out, I will have forgotten the 4 posts I read.

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SzczerbiakManiac "ZER-bee-ak" Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,409	In the beginning of the episode, when Jacob and Esau were on the beach, Jacob was wearing a white shirt with light pants. Esau was wearing a black shirt and dark pants. Ergo, Esau is clearly the bad guy because everybody knows the good guys wear white. __________________
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