Schwarzenegger to Close 220 State Parks - Page 3

JWBear · 05-29-2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

Is California is in worse shape now than when Grey Davis was recalled? Just curious.

Yes, by far!

Moonliner · 05-29-2009, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear

Yes, by far!

However I'm not sure I buy the implication that Schwarenegger is to blame for that or that the state would be in better shape had Davis stayed on.

JWBear · 05-29-2009, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

However I'm not sure I buy the implication that Schwarenegger is to blame for that or that the state would be in better shape had Davis stayed on.

No, perhaps not. Either way though, The economic meltdown is the fault of Republican policy - at both the state and federal level.

scaeagles · 05-29-2009, 02:06 PM

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No, perhaps not. Either way though, The economic meltdown is the fault of Republican policy - at both the state and federal level.

I know enough to dispute this at the federal level (I believe it shared responsibility between both parties but that it started with policies made during the Carter years, but that obviously isn't the subject of this thread), but not knowing the CA political structure, have the republicans controlled anything in CA for a while? I suspect they haven't but I don't know, so it's an honest question.

Gemini Cricket · 05-29-2009, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

However I'm not sure I buy the implication that Schwarenegger is to blame for that or that the state would be in better shape had Davis stayed on.

I don't know. That argument is as frustrating to hear as the "yeah, things were bad under Bush but just think how much worse it could have been under Gore or Kerry". There's supposing and then there's what is actually happening. Arnold is accountable for his state's economy, isn't he?

Moonliner · 05-29-2009, 12:48 PM

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I don't know. That argument is as frustrating to hear as the "yeah, things were bad under Bush but just think how much worse it could have been under Gore or Kerry". There's supposing and then there's what is actually happening. Arnold is accountable for his state's economy, isn't he?

Do the words GLOBAL FINANCIAL MELTDOWN have any relevance in this situation? Everyone everywhere is worse off.

(Ok, not "everyone" literately but you get my meaning)

innerSpaceman · 05-29-2009, 12:24 PM

Yes, of course we are.

Of course, I have no idea why people were so upset with Gray Davis that he had to be freaking recalled. That's absurd. I certainly didn't love the guy ... but WTF was up with that?

JWBear · 05-29-2009, 12:37 PM

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Yes, of course we are.

Of course, I have no idea why people were so upset with Gray Davis that he had to be freaking recalled. That's absurd. I certainly didn't love the guy ... but WTF was up with that?

He wasn't Republican. So, of course he had to be eliminated at any cost.

scaeagles · 05-29-2009, 02:04 PM

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He wasn't Republican. So, of course he had to be eliminated at any cost.

Republicans carry enough power in CA to force the recall of a governor? Republicans are pretty outnumbered in CA, aren't they?

JWBear · 05-29-2009, 12:34 PM

We're only talking about $70 million. That's only .29% of the budget shortfall (and about .01% of the total state budget)! This is an unnescessary cut that will do nothing to solve the problem! It will destroy our state parks sytem and cost the state hundreds of millions, if not billions, of dollars in lost tourism.

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JWBear Worn Romantic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Long Beach California Posts: 8,435	We're only talking about $70 million. That's only .29% of the budget shortfall (and about .01% of the total state budget)! This is an unnescessary cut that will do nothing to solve the problem! It will destroy our state parks sytem and cost the state hundreds of millions, if not billions, of dollars in lost tourism. __________________ Unrestrained frivolity will lead to the downfall of modern society.
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