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Old 07-24-2009, 06:18 PM   #1
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And nothing since has shown his assessment to be in error. So it would appear that while he may not have had all of the facts, he had enough to nail that one (though again I agree he shouldn't have said anything, but not because what he said was wrong).

Just for the record here is the transcript of the question and answer. He was specifically asked to comment on race relations as illuminated by the story.

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Q Thank you, Mr. President. Recently Professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. was arrested at his home in Cambridge. What does that incident say to you and what does it say about race relations in America?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, I should say at the outset that "Skip" Gates is a friend, so I may be a little biased here. I don't know all the facts. What's been reported, though, is that the guy forgot his keys, jimmied his way to get into the house, there was a report called into the police station that there might be a burglary taking place -- so far, so good, right? I mean, if I was trying to jigger into -- well, I guess this is my house now so -- (laughter) -- it probably wouldn't happen. But let's say my old house in Chicago -- (laughter) -- here I'd get shot. (Laughter.)

But so far, so good. They're reporting -- the police are doing what they should. There's a call, they go investigate what happens. My understanding is at that point Professor Gates is already in his house. The police officer comes in, I'm sure there's some exchange of words, but my understanding is, is that Professor Gates then shows his ID to show that this is his house. And at that point, he gets arrested for disorderly conduct -- charges which are later dropped.

Now, I don't know, not having been there and not seeing all the facts, what role race played in that, but I think it's fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry; number two, that the Cambridge Police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home; and number three, what I think we know separate and apart from this incident is that there is a long history in this country of African Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately. That's just a fact.

As you know, Lynn, when I was in the state legislature in Illinois, we worked on a racial profiling bill because there was indisputable evidence that blacks and Hispanics were being stopped disproportionately. And that is a sign, an example of how, you know, race remains a factor in this society. That doesn't lessen the incredible progress that has been made. I am standing here as testimony to the progress that's been made.

And yet the fact of the matter is, is that this still haunts us. And even when there are honest misunderstandings, the fact that blacks and Hispanics are picked up more frequently and oftentime for no cause casts suspicion even when there is good cause. And that's why I think the more that we're working with local law enforcement to improve policing techniques so that we're eliminating potential bias, the safer everybody is going to be.
He says in there
- I don't know if this particular arrest was racially motivated, but
- this country has a long history of minorities being disproportionately impacted by just this sort of non-cause arrest so it even if it wasn't racially motivated in this case it is reasonable to understand why there'd be suspicion.

I have no problem with either part of that. So, you'll have to retract it again. He in no way implied that the arrest was racially motivated. He quite explicitly said that even if it wasn't it is understandable that some (such as Gates) would jump to that conclusion.
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Old 07-25-2009, 11:39 AM   #2
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If we are able to stop Obama on this, it will be his Waterloo. It will break him.
His constitutuants should run him out of town on a rail.


No, anyone who next election votes for someone who boldly and publically states that the healthcare of all Americans should be based on defeating a political opponent as the prime considetion should be run out of all their towns on sharp rails of razorwire, while Demint himself should be tarred, feathered, and lit on fire.
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Old 07-27-2009, 01:08 PM   #3
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I know the Gatesgate kerfluffler has mostly died down into media navel gazing but it is worthy in that finally Christopher Hitchens and I finally agree on an issue that doesn't involve god or that lack thereof.
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Isn't this sweet!?


Obama is having a PICNIC today on the White House lawn with Gates and the Cambridge Office who "stupidly" arrested him.

They are scheduled to eat mac and cheese at 12:40 pm, and sing kumbaya at 1:00 sharp.
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Old 07-30-2009, 11:20 AM   #5
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Obama is going to Martha's Vineyard in a few days, not too far away from Cambridge. Couldn't they visit him there and keep the cost down?
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Less photo op, I suppose.
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I love these "Obama Surprises _____ with a Visit" news stories.

Obama surprises DNC crowd by showing up after Biden's speech.

Obama surprises press corps by showing up in their briefing room.

Obama surprises Stephen Colbert with a taped message ordering him to get his head shaved. (Although, I think this was all set up beforehand.)

Obama surprises troops with a visit to Iraq in April 09.

Helen Thomas got a surprise visit and cupcakes from Obama today to celebrate her birthday.

I'm waiting for: "Obama Surprises Hawaiian Local Boy, Wannabee Actor and Internet Mischief Maker by Helping Him Fill Super Big Gulp Cup with Ice at Local 7-11!"

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Old 08-04-2009, 02:20 PM   #8
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Obama surprises Stephen Colbert with a taped message ordering him to get his head shaved. (Although, I think this was all set up beforehand.)
Yes it was. In fact, Colbert was in the room with Obama when he taped his bit a couple weeks before Colbert left for Iraq. I can't find it from work but you can view the taping of it somewhere.

It was interesting to see what something like that in a president's day is like. Total time elapsed between him entering the room, greeting everybody, sitting, doing the copy, shaking hands, and existing the room was probably no more than five minutes.

And he has to do crap like that all day long.
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It was Obama's birthday today, too. Which I think makes the Helen Thomas thing really cute.


He just turned 48.


I just turned 49. He's president of the United States. I'm .... well, not nearly as accomplished.


Le sigh.
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Le sigh.
Then again, there are unemployed 50 year olds who have never been to Disneyland and can't see what all the fuss is about...
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