Obama - Page 12

Frikitiki · 08-04-2009, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

It was Obama's birthday today, too. Which I think makes the Helen Thomas thing really cute.

He just turned 48.

I just turned 49. He's president of the United States. I'm .... well, not nearly as accomplished.

Le sigh.

But you haven't sold your soul and made all sorts of promises that other people will have to pay for.

So is that such a bad thing? I think not!

Ghoulish Delight · 08-04-2009, 02:33 PM

My favorite part was when he had trouble reading the teleprompter and started shouting at people. "We'll, uh, do it, uh, live!"

Gemini Cricket · 08-11-2009, 11:30 AM

Jon Stewart takes on the health care town hall crazies.
Both clips are worth watching.

Seriously, I love this show more and more every episode.

wendybeth · 08-11-2009, 12:00 PM

I love Jon Stewart.

Cadaverous Pallor · 08-11-2009, 12:11 PM

Quick aside - if you love The Daily Show, and have time on your commute for a podcast, I totally recommend The Bugle, done by John Oliver of Daily Show fame reporting out of New York and the equally hilarious Andy Zaltzman reporting from London. Bonus points if you have soft spot for British humor, though I don't believe that's required to enjoy.

scaeagles · 08-11-2009, 12:31 PM

When is Stewart going to show the video of Obama from 2003, talking about how he wants a single payer system and contrast it against what he says now about how he doesn't?

Obama's health care plans are the major portion of my upcoming (hopefully sooner rather than later) rant about Obama. Haven't had the time to do it right yet. Yeah, I'm sure you are all disappointed.

I think people are (rightfully) scared by his plans. I know I am.

Alex · 08-11-2009, 12:35 PM

Wait? You want Stewart to do that? But wouldn't highlighting that Obama's position has changed to where he no longer seems to be supporting a single payer health care system put lie to the various any reform people are saying that is exactly what is now being proposed (if they don't go even farther and claim that the current proposals seek a British style single-provider health care system)?

I'm all for Stewart pointing out how Obama's positions change and conflict with earlier positions. I'm just not sure the Republicans want them contrasted like that since they're current strategy is to present the 2003 statements as the current policy proposal.

Alex · 08-11-2009, 12:37 PM

I have had a question for you scaeagles, that I hope you (and any of the other Republican identified members here*) will answer.

Do have any doubts as to the citizenship of Barack Obama or whether he otherwise fails to meet the constitutional requirements for holding the office of President of the United States?

* Of course, anybody of any political persuasion can answer the question, I just haven't yet run into the non-Republican that would answer yes.

scaeagles · 08-11-2009, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Do have any doubts as to the citizenship of Barack Obama or whether he otherwise fails to meet the constitutional requirements for holding the office of President of the United States?

No, I have no doubts, and in fact cringe when it is brought up repeatedly. I have no doubt that were it an issue the Clintons would have proven it during the primaries. It is so ridiculous that I often wonder if Obama pays people to bring it up so that he can link all criticism to this wackiness.

As far as the video, I just think it shows Obama's inconsistencies in what he says on the issue. I do not believe his stance has changed, and there are other videos out there I have seen where Obama sys he wants to move toward that goal (single payer) but recognizes it won't be instantaneous, and that it will take perhaps 15 years to completely eliminate the employer provided health system.

The man is a politician with an agenda. This is fine in and of itself. Those who are elected typically are politicians with an agenda. He recognizes his ultimate goal is not achievable all at once, but I think is coming to realize this step he is taking is far too much for the populace to support.

innerSpaceman · 08-11-2009, 12:39 PM

Since the "Three Amigos" summit just concluded, perhaps a better contrast would be his campaign pledge to revisit NAFTA in the First Year of his admnistration vs. now ... when he says, oh sorry, the global economic situation can't allow for that.

He's a well-spoken craven politician, but still a craven politician. Pfft, just like I always said. Yeah, well, thank goodness he's at least our first, ya know, colored president.

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Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	Jon Stewart takes on the health care town hall crazies. Both clips are worth watching. Seriously, I love this show more and more every episode. Last edited by Gemini Cricket : 08-11-2009 at 12:06 PM. Reason: "Jon" not "John"
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08-11-2009, 12:31 PM	#6
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	When is Stewart going to show the video of Obama from 2003, talking about how he wants a single payer system and contrast it against what he says now about how he doesn't? Obama's health care plans are the major portion of my upcoming (hopefully sooner rather than later) rant about Obama. Haven't had the time to do it right yet. Yeah, I'm sure you are all disappointed. I think people are (rightfully) scared by his plans. I know I am.
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08-11-2009, 12:35 PM	#7
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Wait? You want Stewart to do that? But wouldn't highlighting that Obama's position has changed to where he no longer seems to be supporting a single payer health care system put lie to the various any reform people are saying that is exactly what is now being proposed (if they don't go even farther and claim that the current proposals seek a British style single-provider health care system)? I'm all for Stewart pointing out how Obama's positions change and conflict with earlier positions. I'm just not sure the Republicans want them contrasted like that since they're current strategy is to present the 2003 statements as the current policy proposal.
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08-11-2009, 12:37 PM	#8
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I have had a question for you scaeagles, that I hope you (and any of the other Republican identified members here) will answer. Do have any doubts as to the citizenship of Barack Obama or whether he otherwise fails to meet the constitutional requirements for holding the office of President of the United States? Of course, anybody of any political persuasion can answer the question, I just haven't yet run into the non-Republican that would answer yes.
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08-11-2009, 12:39 PM	#10
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Since the "Three Amigos" summit just concluded, perhaps a better contrast would be his campaign pledge to revisit NAFTA in the First Year of his admnistration vs. now ... when he says, oh sorry, the global economic situation can't allow for that. He's a well-spoken craven politician, but still a craven politician. Pfft, just like I always said. Yeah, well, thank goodness he's at least our first, ya know, colored president.
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