Miscellaneous Movie Musings the Sequel - Page 168

innerSpaceman · 11-13-2012, 05:17 PM

On a different note, I think I kinda hated Cloud Atlas, but my bf loved it. He thought it was romantic, but I hear the filmmakers added in those elements of love surviving through eons of time. I found it cheesy and trite, though I was entertained enough.

The theme of reincarnation did not have to be hammered home by having the same gang of actors appear in different roles in each of the six stories. They were shoehorned in, and some of the accents and especially the make-up was just cringe-worthy.

Some of the stories were interesting, too many were not. It's a pretty film to look at, and the mix of genre's is interesting. But I really hate it when a novel told in a certain way is made suitable (i.e., dumbed-down) for cinema by constant cross-cutting.

As I understand it, the novel tackles it Story A, B, C, D, E and F - each to a certain point, and then wraps them up F, E, D, C, B and A. To me, that's a much more interesting structure, and I contest the assumption it can't work on film and instead all six stories must be constantly intercut. That's hack work. Quite literally. Sure, it prevents boredom. It also prevents getting more than mildly interested in any of the stories.

As I also understand it, there is only one character reincarnated from story to story in the novel. The casting suggestion that everyone is reincarnated was silly, imo, and it was actually distracting trying to figure out who was playing who in each story under tons of make-up.

I'm going to read the book. Bah on the movie.

alphabassettgrrl · 11-13-2012, 09:56 PM

Enjoyed Skyfall a whole lot. It's absolutely beautiful to look at, they give you locator shots to tell you where you are, Bond rocks, the opening chase scene is everything I love about the Bond chase scenes (namely, that they show Bond solving what the bad guy did that was going to let him get away, rather than just teasing us that they were going to catch the bad guy and things happen to let him slip away again and again), the theme song and animations are beautiful, and that house!!! I want to go take a zillion pictures.

Judi Dench is of course amazing as M. Not so fond of Q but that's ok. I get what they were doing. Javier Bardem (so that's what the comment was about "best Bond girl ever" meant) is fabulous as the bad guy.

I don't like that Daniel Craig's Bond gets beat up so much. Bond isn't supposed to get hammered like that. But his suits always look great! And only once did I spot the matte painting background.

innerSpaceman · 11-14-2012, 11:38 AM

Wow, that's way creepier than actual product placement.

cirquelover · 11-14-2012, 09:21 PM

I think Cloud Atlas looks fascinating. I didn't read the book so maybe I will still like it.

JWBear · 11-17-2012, 03:49 PM

Bill and I were discussing the rumor that Daniel Craig may be giving up the Bond roll. Then we thought; wouldn't it be cool if the next 007 was a woman? It's about time MI6 hired a woman for the position! "Bond, Jane Bond."

Alex · 11-17-2012, 05:15 PM

If Craig does leave there has been a lot of talk for Idris Elba getting the role (none of it from people who'd make the decision). So black is probably as radical a choice as is likely to happen.

Besides, this movie demonstrated that women are really suited to field world.

cirquelover · 11-18-2012, 10:51 AM

Oooo I love Idris Elba!

Ghoulish Delight · 11-21-2012, 12:17 AM

Finally saw Moonrise Kingdom.

I can give no objective analysis of whether that was a good movie or not. Wes Anderson simply gives me a raging cineboner and I love every color-filtered, socially awkward, dysfunctional frame he flickers in front of me.

Alex · 11-21-2012, 06:29 AM

I'm pretty sure you can get a cineboner at your local mall's food court. Way too many calories. And it is unlikely to actually use the best cinnamon in the world.

innerSpaceman · 11-21-2012, 08:38 AM

Cineboner distraction or not, Moonrise Kingdom IS a fantastic movie. I'm not an automatic Wes Anderson tumescencer, so this is an unbiased fact.

11-13-2012, 05:17 PM	#1
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	On a different note, I think I kinda hated Cloud Atlas, but my bf loved it. He thought it was romantic, but I hear the filmmakers added in those elements of love surviving through eons of time. I found it cheesy and trite, though I was entertained enough. The theme of reincarnation did not have to be hammered home by having the same gang of actors appear in different roles in each of the six stories. They were shoehorned in, and some of the accents and especially the make-up was just cringe-worthy. Some of the stories were interesting, too many were not. It's a pretty film to look at, and the mix of genre's is interesting. But I really hate it when a novel told in a certain way is made suitable (i.e., dumbed-down) for cinema by constant cross-cutting. As I understand it, the novel tackles it Story A, B, C, D, E and F - each to a certain point, and then wraps them up F, E, D, C, B and A. To me, that's a much more interesting structure, and I contest the assumption it can't work on film and instead all six stories must be constantly intercut. That's hack work. Quite literally. Sure, it prevents boredom. It also prevents getting more than mildly interested in any of the stories. As I also understand it, there is only one character reincarnated from story to story in the novel. The casting suggestion that everyone is reincarnated was silly, imo, and it was actually distracting trying to figure out who was playing who in each story under tons of make-up. I'm going to read the book. Bah on the movie.
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11-13-2012, 09:56 PM	#2
alphabassettgrrl Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,978	Enjoyed Skyfall a whole lot. It's absolutely beautiful to look at, they give you locator shots to tell you where you are, Bond rocks, the opening chase scene is everything I love about the Bond chase scenes (namely, that they show Bond solving what the bad guy did that was going to let him get away, rather than just teasing us that they were going to catch the bad guy and things happen to let him slip away again and again), the theme song and animations are beautiful, and that house!!! I want to go take a zillion pictures. Judi Dench is of course amazing as M. Not so fond of Q but that's ok. I get what they were doing. Javier Bardem (so that's what the comment was about "best Bond girl ever" meant) is fabulous as the bad guy. I don't like that Daniel Craig's Bond gets beat up so much. Bond isn't supposed to get hammered like that. But his suits always look great! And only once did I spot the matte painting background. __________________ Why cycling? Anything [sport] that had to do with a ball, I wasn't very good at. -Lance Armstrong
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11-14-2012, 11:38 AM	#3
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Wow, that's way creepier than actual product placement.
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cirquelover Cruising around in my automobile... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,617	I think Cloud Atlas looks fascinating. I didn't read the book so maybe I will still like it. __________________ Waiting for Summer to arrive!
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JWBear Worn Romantic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Long Beach California Posts: 8,435	Bill and I were discussing the rumor that Daniel Craig may be giving up the Bond roll. Then we thought; wouldn't it be cool if the next 007 was a woman? It's about time MI6 hired a woman for the position! "Bond, Jane Bond." __________________ Unrestrained frivolity will lead to the downfall of modern society.
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11-17-2012, 05:15 PM	#6
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	If Craig does leave there has been a lot of talk for Idris Elba getting the role (none of it from people who'd make the decision). So black is probably as radical a choice as is likely to happen. Besides, this movie demonstrated that women are really suited to field world.
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11-18-2012, 10:51 AM	#7
cirquelover Cruising around in my automobile... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,617	Oooo I love Idris Elba! __________________ Waiting for Summer to arrive!
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11-21-2012, 12:17 AM	#8
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Finally saw Moonrise Kingdom. I can give no objective analysis of whether that was a good movie or not. Wes Anderson simply gives me a raging cineboner and I love every color-filtered, socially awkward, dysfunctional frame he flickers in front of me. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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11-21-2012, 06:29 AM	#9
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I'm pretty sure you can get a cineboner at your local mall's food court. Way too many calories. And it is unlikely to actually use the best cinnamon in the world.
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11-21-2012, 08:38 AM	#10
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Cineboner distraction or not, Moonrise Kingdom IS a fantastic movie. I'm not an automatic Wes Anderson tumescencer, so this is an unbiased fact.
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