Cannabis for California - Page 6

Ghoulish Delight · 03-27-2010, 05:40 PM

Well, there's the Walmart case in Michigan. A little different because it's medical, but it raises many of the same questions. So far it seems the feds are staying out of it. But I think the prevailing legal climate is that Walmart is allowed to enforce its policy. In the long run I think it'll lead to a major reevaluation of how companies write drug policies and it will end up in a similar place that alcohol is. Don't do be stupid and you're fine.

Alex · 03-27-2010, 06:10 PM

Current law in California is that employers can still fire employees for simply having smoked pot regardless of whether the employee was prescribed the marijuana and there is no need to show that the smoking impacted job performance. This was confirmed by the state supreme court in Ross v. RagingWire Telecommunications in 2008. So in that regard this initiative would appear to overturn that. I'm sure that the FAA will still be able to pull you pilot's license or that Berkeley will be able to deny you a job at Lawrence Livermore if pot smoking is against the rules.

Ghoulish Delight · 03-27-2010, 06:24 PM

Yeah, similar to alcohol. The FAA has pretty strict drinking rules. They don't disallow drinking all together, but they forbid you from drinking within a certain amount of time before you fly. And that amount of time boils down to, how long of a gap can we mandate that A) ensures that you are sober when you fly and B) available testing can prove one way or the other whether you followed the rules or not. On that model, yeah, they're going to have to continue to forbid marijuana.

Most companies have no need to be that strict and won't be.

Morrigoon · 03-27-2010, 08:24 PM

(24 hours on the pilot drinking, btw)

DreadPirateRoberts · 03-28-2010, 06:56 PM

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(24 hours on the pilot drinking, btw)

24 hours between bottle and throttle

€uroMeinke · 03-27-2010, 10:31 PM

They don't let you drink and operate a nuke plant either - I suspect the same will apply to pot

Capt Jack · 03-30-2010, 02:26 PM

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They don't let you drink and operate a nuke plant either - I suspect the same will apply to pot

you mean they dont let you drink and operate pot? that was half my youth!

Alex · 03-27-2010, 10:55 PM

That's not true. I've seen otherwise on that Fox documentary The Simpsons.

Morrigoon · 03-27-2010, 11:03 PM

Yes, but that's just a re-enactment

Kevy Baby · 03-30-2010, 04:52 PM

Capt Jack used to do drugs in the 70's

Now he'll do them at any temperature

03-27-2010, 05:40 PM	#1
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Well, there's the Walmart case in Michigan. A little different because it's medical, but it raises many of the same questions. So far it seems the feds are staying out of it. But I think the prevailing legal climate is that Walmart is allowed to enforce its policy. In the long run I think it'll lead to a major reevaluation of how companies write drug policies and it will end up in a similar place that alcohol is. Don't do be stupid and you're fine. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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03-27-2010, 06:10 PM	#2
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Current law in California is that employers can still fire employees for simply having smoked pot regardless of whether the employee was prescribed the marijuana and there is no need to show that the smoking impacted job performance. This was confirmed by the state supreme court in Ross v. RagingWire Telecommunications in 2008. So in that regard this initiative would appear to overturn that. I'm sure that the FAA will still be able to pull you pilot's license or that Berkeley will be able to deny you a job at Lawrence Livermore if pot smoking is against the rules.
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03-27-2010, 06:24 PM	#3
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Yeah, similar to alcohol. The FAA has pretty strict drinking rules. They don't disallow drinking all together, but they forbid you from drinking within a certain amount of time before you fly. And that amount of time boils down to, how long of a gap can we mandate that A) ensures that you are sober when you fly and B) available testing can prove one way or the other whether you followed the rules or not. On that model, yeah, they're going to have to continue to forbid marijuana. Most companies have no need to be that strict and won't be. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	(24 hours on the pilot drinking, btw) __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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€uroMeinke L'Hédoniste Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: A.S.C.O.T. Posts: 8,671	They don't let you drink and operate a nuke plant either - I suspect the same will apply to pot __________________ I would believe only in a God that knows how to Dance. Friedrich Nietzsche
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	That's not true. I've seen otherwise on that Fox documentary The Simpsons.
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Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	Yes, but that's just a re-enactment __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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Kevy Baby Chowder Head Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Yes Posts: 18,500	Capt Jack used to do drugs in the 70's Now he'll do them at any temperature __________________ The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot verify their validity. - Abraham Lincoln
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