DCA's World of Color - Page 2

innerSpaceman · 05-05-2010, 02:54 PM

My friend Rik quit over this. He used to be something of a bigwig in Disney Entertainment, and he was adamant that World of Color would never be a second Fantasmic without live performers. He lobbied really hard for a staging zone under the bridge so that performers could be barged out to the lagoon - insisting the show would not have much repeat value if it were just effects and fountains and, best of all for repeat business, film clips.

He and Disney parted ways when they nixed his ideas, and I've been leary about World of Color ever since. The irony is, they most likely will add performers later in a bid to save World of Color when interest wanes in Year 3.

innerSpaceman · 05-05-2010, 04:11 PM

oh, and after reading Al's update, it sounds like seeing World of Color is going to be more of a nightmare than even previously feared. OMG.

I recently visited the Paradise Park viewing area, and it's very nice. But yeah, there's not much great viewing room there. I was bad enough when they were going to make you stand there for hours ... but now the plan is to keep everyone in the Hollywood Backlot only to release you in one giant stampede of run-and-fight for the hundred good viewing spots. Hell, that sounds so horrific.

Adding a third show at 11:30 pm is a good idea though, and hopefully those won't be ungodly crowded. And hey, maybe seeing fireworks and Fantasmic at Disneyland will be a whole lot easier over the summer. Um, if I had any friends that still went to Disneyland once in a while.

Anyways, I know I'm gonna want to see WoC once semi-soon after it opens, just as much as pretty much know I'm going to be underwhelmed. I have no doubt it will be pretty and entertaining, but I don't think it will be worth the hassle it takes to see the damn thing.

CoasterMatt · 05-05-2010, 04:21 PM

I want viewing stands on top of the buildings along the walkway so I can get good views of the nightly stampede.

CoasterMatt · 05-05-2010, 04:41 PM

Get "Pam Cooking Spray" to sponsor the show, then use the fountains in Paradise Park to hose everybody down, so they can slide as many people as possible into the park. Then at the end of the show, use giant shuffleboard sticks to slide everybody out for the next show.

BarTopDancer · 05-05-2010, 04:48 PM

The one positive in that article is that they aren't going to allow stragglers to stay behind for another show.

scaeagles · 05-05-2010, 06:05 PM

The whole experience sounds rather unpleasant, and it sure sounds like they are going to be selling the best seats, so there might not be a rush anyway. Nothing to rush for.

I would figure that they need to provide other options for people to exit. Didn't there used to be an entrance/exit near there for guests of the Paradise Pier Hotel? Opening that for an exit might be good.

Alex · 05-05-2010, 06:15 PM

Is going to be a nightmare because it is a crappy show or because it is a great show and the seating/crowd control is a mess?

Because I believe the latter was true of Fantasmic as well but eventually it got worked out.

scaeagles · 05-06-2010, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Is going to be a nightmare because it is a crappy show or because it is a great show and the seating/crowd control is a mess?

Because I believe the latter was true of Fantasmic as well but eventually it got worked out.

I don't have any preconceptions about the show one way or another. I have never really quite understood why X has to be compared to Y. I think Y should be judged for what Y is rather than saying it sucks because it can never be X. After viewing it, if it sucks, it sucks....like the unfortunate experience I had viewing Fantasmic at WDW when we went there in 2008. Now THAT sucked, and in spite of how much I had heard it sucked prior to viewing it, I suppose I needed to see it for myself to make the judgment.

My concern is solely one of crowd control and the fact that large portions of the park will be completely shut down for hours to accomodate the viewing. I don't understand how their estimates of the size of the crowd able to view it could have been as far off as they are. Having experienced the crush of post Fantasmic crowds, I think 6000 people being funneled down the narrow walkway past Grizzley River Run as the only option for exiting the area is something that makes me.....uncomfortable, and I'm not claustrophobic.

innerSpaceman · 05-05-2010, 06:32 PM

I wouldn't say it got worked out exactly. That whole side of the Park is still a To-Be-Avoided area at night. If it weren't one of, if not THE nicest area in Disneyland, that might not be the craptacularity that it is.

But even so, can you imagine gathering a crowd for Fantasmic in Tomorrowland and then releasing them to run en mass through the hub and Frontierland to grab viewing spots for the show?

When this is revealed to be one-tenth the show that Fantasmic is, crowd control might not be an issue. But that won't happen this year. Unless of course - and don't think it could never happen again - this proves to be another Light Magic of disaster proportions. (I don't think that's the case, but I would have never imagined their idea of the Electrical Parade replacement being an unmitigated horror either.)

innerSpaceman · 05-05-2010, 08:24 PM

I'm reading Al's Update again because I'm just not getting something.

DCA's going to stay open later than usual, till 10pm. Except for Midway Mania, Paradise Pier will close at 8, so it can be all dark and abandoned by the first WoC show at 9;15. Don't even get me started on designing a water show in a lagoon surrounded by theme park on all sides that cannot be seen, and will not be allowed to be seen from the sides or the back.

No, what I'm wondering is ... if there's a show at 11:30 and the park closes at 10:00 - what do those 6,000 people do FOR 90 MINUTES??? Oh, and for 55 of those, they won't be allowed to wait in the show viewing area (another show will be on).

This is just bizarre.

And really, I thought seeing it from the back side of Paradise Pier would be inferior - but I never imagined it would be non-existent.

05-05-2010, 02:54 PM	#1
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	My friend Rik quit over this. He used to be something of a bigwig in Disney Entertainment, and he was adamant that World of Color would never be a second Fantasmic without live performers. He lobbied really hard for a staging zone under the bridge so that performers could be barged out to the lagoon - insisting the show would not have much repeat value if it were just effects and fountains and, best of all for repeat business, film clips. He and Disney parted ways when they nixed his ideas, and I've been leary about World of Color ever since. The irony is, they most likely will add performers later in a bid to save World of Color when interest wanes in Year 3.
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05-05-2010, 04:11 PM	#2
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	oh, and after reading Al's update, it sounds like seeing World of Color is going to be more of a nightmare than even previously feared. OMG. I recently visited the Paradise Park viewing area, and it's very nice. But yeah, there's not much great viewing room there. I was bad enough when they were going to make you stand there for hours ... but now the plan is to keep everyone in the Hollywood Backlot only to release you in one giant stampede of run-and-fight for the hundred good viewing spots. Hell, that sounds so horrific. Adding a third show at 11:30 pm is a good idea though, and hopefully those won't be ungodly crowded. And hey, maybe seeing fireworks and Fantasmic at Disneyland will be a whole lot easier over the summer. Um, if I had any friends that still went to Disneyland once in a while. Anyways, I know I'm gonna want to see WoC once semi-soon after it opens, just as much as pretty much know I'm going to be underwhelmed. I have no doubt it will be pretty and entertaining, but I don't think it will be worth the hassle it takes to see the damn thing.
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CoasterMatt BRAAAAAAAINS! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: One Step Beyond... Posts: 8,802	I want viewing stands on top of the buildings along the walkway so I can get good views of the nightly stampede. __________________ Do you like my photography? Visit photosbymatt.tumblr.com to purchase prints!
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05-05-2010, 04:41 PM	#4
CoasterMatt BRAAAAAAAINS! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: One Step Beyond... Posts: 8,802	Get "Pam Cooking Spray" to sponsor the show, then use the fountains in Paradise Park to hose everybody down, so they can slide as many people as possible into the park. Then at the end of the show, use giant shuffleboard sticks to slide everybody out for the next show. __________________ Do you like my photography? Visit photosbymatt.tumblr.com to purchase prints!
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05-05-2010, 04:48 PM	#5
BarTopDancer Prepping... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Here, there, everywhere Posts: 11,405	The one positive in that article is that they aren't going to allow stragglers to stay behind for another show. __________________ Spork is the new MacGyver Postcards From My Edge
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05-05-2010, 06:05 PM	#6
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	The whole experience sounds rather unpleasant, and it sure sounds like they are going to be selling the best seats, so there might not be a rush anyway. Nothing to rush for. I would figure that they need to provide other options for people to exit. Didn't there used to be an entrance/exit near there for guests of the Paradise Pier Hotel? Opening that for an exit might be good.
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05-05-2010, 06:15 PM	#7
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Is going to be a nightmare because it is a crappy show or because it is a great show and the seating/crowd control is a mess? Because I believe the latter was true of Fantasmic as well but eventually it got worked out.
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05-05-2010, 06:32 PM	#9
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	I wouldn't say it got worked out exactly. That whole side of the Park is still a To-Be-Avoided area at night. If it weren't one of, if not THE nicest area in Disneyland, that might not be the craptacularity that it is. But even so, can you imagine gathering a crowd for Fantasmic in Tomorrowland and then releasing them to run en mass through the hub and Frontierland to grab viewing spots for the show? When this is revealed to be one-tenth the show that Fantasmic is, crowd control might not be an issue. But that won't happen this year. Unless of course - and don't think it could never happen again - this proves to be another Light Magic of disaster proportions. (I don't think that's the case, but I would have never imagined their idea of the Electrical Parade replacement being an unmitigated horror either.)
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05-05-2010, 08:24 PM	#10
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	I'm reading Al's Update again because I'm just not getting something. DCA's going to stay open later than usual, till 10pm. Except for Midway Mania, Paradise Pier will close at 8, so it can be all dark and abandoned by the first WoC show at 9;15. Don't even get me started on designing a water show in a lagoon surrounded by theme park on all sides that cannot be seen, and will not be allowed to be seen from the sides or the back. No, what I'm wondering is ... if there's a show at 11:30 and the park closes at 10:00 - what do those 6,000 people do FOR 90 MINUTES??? Oh, and for 55 of those, they won't be allowed to wait in the show viewing area (another show will be on). This is just bizarre. And really, I thought seeing it from the back side of Paradise Pier would be inferior - but I never imagined it would be non-existent.
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