So, uh, Star Tours. - Page 4

Cadaverous Pallor · 07-28-2010, 12:09 PM

Heh, I'd forgotten that take on it. I see the point, and though I could argue semantics, I won't.

Our generation gap is showing - but what do you expect from someone who was 10 years old when the ride opened?

innerSpaceman · 07-28-2010, 12:19 PM

Absolutely forgiven because of your youth. Especially since that sad youth meant missing Star Wars in theaters on its initial run. A beautiful reason to be alive and of movie-going age in 1977.

Aside from the breaking of the fourth wall which I think Star Wars and Indiana Jones do explicitly, all movie attractions really need to be conceived and prepared with four or five different films. Soaring Over California is great, but became pretty boring after the first dozen rides. Star Tours lasted perhaps 15.

I can't explain why movies have less repeatability than a physical attraction I know every inch of, but it's a known phenomena not experienced by me alone.

It's already such a cheap short-cut to have a movie ride in the first place. Not having any alternate films, for decades no less, is adding insult to cheap shot.

innerSpaceman · 07-28-2010, 12:38 PM

And a druggie ride. Drugs and Sex = best ride ever!

Alex · 07-28-2010, 01:25 PM

What I remember about ATIS is that it closed years before my first trip to Disneyland and so it just yet another piece of nostalgia that people wistfully wish would return even though that would eventually be the death of the park.

blueerica · 07-28-2010, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

What I remember about ATIS is that it closed years before my first trip to Disneyland and so it just yet another piece of nostalgia that people wistfully wish would return even though that would eventually be the death of the park.

Zombie-ATIS.

Sometimes things just need to be left in the place where fond memories reside.

CoasterMatt · 07-28-2010, 01:34 PM

Even curmudgeons liked AtiS.

It was trippy and had great a/c.

blueerica · 07-28-2010, 02:14 PM

I was fortunate to have three family members employed at the park when I was very young, so I got to go to Disneyland with regularity (probably at least every other month until I moved, then it was at least 3x every summer). So, I got to go on ATIS many, many times before it closed; it shared a Top 3 spot with Space Mountain and Pirates of the Caribbean. ATIS really, truly amazed me. My little mind was blown away.

While I was young enough (9-ish) to accept Star Tours and be excited for all the new-ness of it, I felt the disappointment of missing the old ATIS queue for a number of years, until my child-like memory of it began to fade.

Come to think of it, I don't Star Tours was ever on my "must-do" list for Disneyland visits, whereas SM and PotC were.

innerSpaceman · 07-28-2010, 02:23 PM

We were talking about Inner Space at Club 33 dinner on Disneyland Birthday, and meant to watch the DVD I'd brought along to the hotel of the computer recreation of ATIS when we got back to the Wrather Suite.

But, um, we forgot. And other shenanigans intervened. Too bad, that would have been fun.

RStar · 07-28-2010, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

We were talking about Inner Space at Club 33 dinner on Disneyland Birthday, and meant to watch the DVD I'd brought along to the hotel of the computer recreation of ATIS when we got back to the Wrather Suite.

I have a copy of that DVD. It's wrather good.....

Kevy Baby · 07-28-2010, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Star Tours was the first attraction in Disneyland that completely took you out of anything created by Walt Disney or the imagineers and into a movie world you already knew from the real world, solidly plunking you down, imo, in that real world outside the berm.

You give Jungle Cruise a pass, but say that Star Tours takes you into "real world outside the berm?!?"

If anything, Star Tours does a BETTER job of removing one from reality. You are taken to a place that we can (at this point) only dream about. If I wanted to go on an African safari, I could do that right now (the cost and desire to actually want to aside). While space travel is indeed in our futures, it is far less accessible than a trip down a river. And I am far less likely to see a 747 flying overhead or hear the whistle of a steam locomotive on Start Tours than I am on Jungle Cruise.

While the ride is certainly showing its age and could stand for some new technology, I feel much more removed from reality on Star Tours than I do on many of the other attractions discussed.

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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Absolutely forgiven because of your youth. Especially since that sad youth meant missing Star Wars in theaters on its initial run. A beautiful reason to be alive and of movie-going age in 1977. Aside from the breaking of the fourth wall which I think Star Wars and Indiana Jones do explicitly, all movie attractions really need to be conceived and prepared with four or five different films. Soaring Over California is great, but became pretty boring after the first dozen rides. Star Tours lasted perhaps 15. I can't explain why movies have less repeatability than a physical attraction I know every inch of, but it's a known phenomena not experienced by me alone. It's already such a cheap short-cut to have a movie ride in the first place. Not having any alternate films, for decades no less, is adding insult to cheap shot.
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	And a druggie ride. Drugs and Sex = best ride ever!
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	What I remember about ATIS is that it closed years before my first trip to Disneyland and so it just yet another piece of nostalgia that people wistfully wish would return even though that would eventually be the death of the park.
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CoasterMatt BRAAAAAAAINS! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: One Step Beyond... Posts: 8,802	Even curmudgeons liked AtiS. It was trippy and had great a/c. __________________ Do you like my photography? Visit photosbymatt.tumblr.com to purchase prints!
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blueerica Nueve Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,497	I was fortunate to have three family members employed at the park when I was very young, so I got to go to Disneyland with regularity (probably at least every other month until I moved, then it was at least 3x every summer). So, I got to go on ATIS many, many times before it closed; it shared a Top 3 spot with Space Mountain and Pirates of the Caribbean. ATIS really, truly amazed me. My little mind was blown away. While I was young enough (9-ish) to accept Star Tours and be excited for all the new-ness of it, I felt the disappointment of missing the old ATIS queue for a number of years, until my child-like memory of it began to fade. Come to think of it, I don't Star Tours was ever on my "must-do" list for Disneyland visits, whereas SM and PotC were.
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07-28-2010, 02:23 PM	#8
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	We were talking about Inner Space at Club 33 dinner on Disneyland Birthday, and meant to watch the DVD I'd brought along to the hotel of the computer recreation of ATIS when we got back to the Wrather Suite. But, um, we forgot. And other shenanigans intervened. Too bad, that would have been fun.
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