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Old 09-03-2010, 12:44 AM   #1
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I have a pretty poor impression of Ronald Reagan. Did then, do now. His philosophy of looting the country for the sake of the rich has led us to where we are now, and has ruined America - for perhaps a very, very long time - if not actually sewn the seeds of our Empire's doom.

His actions, or rather inactions, on the AIDS crisis make him nothing short of a cold-blooded murderer in my book.

I won't even get started on Iran-Contra or his warmongering. But let me leave off that he was a doddering old man who creeped me out, and it amazed me that so many people found him a charming grandfatherly figure. He was pretty much evil in my book. Proto-Palpatine.
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Old 09-03-2010, 06:31 AM   #2
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I must apologize....I fear I have derailed this thread and certainly did not intend to. I just had to raise objections to what Cynthia had posted. We have hashed out differences of opinion on Reagan before, and this thread was intended to be about Palin.
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Old 09-03-2010, 08:27 AM   #3
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We'll just disagree on the seriousness of what that sentence suggested about Reagan. Like I said, I found the post so over the top that I stopped reading after a couple sentences anyway.
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Old 09-03-2010, 11:38 AM   #4
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Can we all just agree that Palin has some seriously horrible issues, AND that it indicates some serious horrible issues in those that love her so dearly? I think the conservatives here aren't going to be in her camp.
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Old 09-03-2010, 11:44 AM   #5
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I agree she has political issues. If "issues" includes "personal issues" then I probably don't necessarily agree.
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Old 09-03-2010, 12:26 PM   #6
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I'm not a huge Palin fan, but I understand her appeal. There have been....well, really no loud vocal champions of conservatives that get out and run for office. She is the anti-McCain. Do I think she represents everything an intelligent conservative does? No, What she primarily does is rally up a conservative portion of the republican party that is tired of republican officals losing their fiscal conservatism, and tired of the absolute immense size of govenment. I get that. I'm with her on that. But I don't regard her as a serious candidate for office.

Of course, many of the currently elected government I don't regard as a serious candidate for office.

If the government was smaller than it is, Palin would really not have any appeal. But it is huge, getting bigger, and it got bigger not only under Obama, but under Bush as well. She capitalizes on the sentiment of people who are tired of that.
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Old 09-03-2010, 01:10 PM   #7
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If the government was smaller than it is, Palin would really not have any appeal. But it is huge, getting bigger, and it got bigger not only under Obama, but under Bush as well. She capitalizes on the sentiment of people who are tired of that.
SCA, it certainly isn't the support of small government policy that makes Palin and others repellant to me - for all I know, some version of fiscal conservatism might make sense and turn things around. (I'm too ignorant on economics to argue persuasively on behalf of a bigger fed) It's the "guns and Bible" anti-intellectualism that makes it impossible for me to take these people seriously. (And in Palin's case, well, she really does seem like kind of a horrible person.) I don't see much logical correlation between smaller government and all the God talk. (Unless it would be harder for a small government to quash a theocracy - I sure hope that's not what's bubbling under the surface of all the rallying.)
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I sure hope that's not what's bubbling under the surface of all the rallying
Under the surface? “America today begins to turn back to God.”
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Old 09-03-2010, 12:27 PM   #9
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On the other hand, I'd vote for Tina Fey in a heartbeat.
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On the other hand, I'd vote for Tina Fey in a heartbeat.
If Palin running means more Tina Fey on SNL portraying her, then I'm all for it. With the caveat that Palin loses, of course.
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