Congresswoman shot in head - Page 2

JWBear · 01-09-2011, 10:37 AM

Yeah... It doesn't sound like he had any particular political agenda. Mein Kompf and the Communist Manifesto are at complete opposite ends of the political spectrum. He's just your garden variety insane.

However, that hasn't stopped people from both sides of the political fence from proclaiming him a believer of the other side's.

3894 · 01-11-2011, 07:30 PM

This article on Stochastic Terrorism might be of interest.

Quote:

"Stochastic terrorism is the use of mass communications to stir up random lone wolves to carry out violent or terrorist acts that are statistically predictable but individually unpredictable.

This is what occurs when Bin Laden releases a video that stirs random extremists halfway around the globe to commit a bombing or shooting.

This is also the term for what Beck, O'Reilly, Hannity, and others do. And this is what led directly and predictably to a number of cases of ideologically-motivated murder similar to the Tucson shootings."

innerSpaceman · 01-12-2011, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3894

This article on Stochastic Terrorism might be of interest.

I don't think anyone's placing direct blame in a straight causational line, Alex. But some are alleging that pundits have known for quite a while, and are certainly now put on notice, that their insanity-appealing rhetoric will, sooner or later, but undoubtedly, appeal to the insane to carry out the violence they directly and specifically promote with such rhetoric.

Others, such as I (for example), believe many of these pundits are indeed purposeful and knowing Stochastic Terrorists of the bin Laden ilk, who are conducting a planned reign of terrorism behind the cowardice of plausible deniability.

Not Afraid · 01-09-2011, 11:54 AM

He listed all sorts of books as favorites - including Alice in Wonderland. But, his statement about the government wanting to control our minds through grammar is a bit odd, to say the least.

JWBear · 01-09-2011, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Afraid

But, his statement about the government wanting to control our minds through grammar is a bit odd, to say the least.

Some are saying he was a follower of this guy.

JWBear · 01-10-2011, 06:00 PM

I'm getting sick and tired of the right claiming Loughner was a "leftie" because he read Mein Kampf! Nazi's were right-wing! What uninformed idiots!

Kevy Baby · 01-10-2011, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWBear

I'm getting sick and tired of the right claiming Loughner was a "leftie" because he read Mein Kampf! Nazi's were right-wing! What uninformed idiots!

I'm sick and tired of anyone making this a political issue: it was a mass murder. Yes, some ties can be made to political issues, but first and foremost, this guy is a nutjob and just killed six and wounded 14.

This is not about politics - it is about mental illness.

JWBear · 01-10-2011, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

I'm sick and tired of anyone making this a political issue: it was a mass murder. Yes, some ties can be made to political issues, but first and foremost, this guy is a nutjob and just killed six and wounded 14.

This is not about politics - it is about mental illness.

I completely agree. The Nazi thing is just one of my historical pet peeves.

innerSpaceman · 01-10-2011, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

I'm sick and tired of anyone making this a political issue: it was a mass murder. Yes, some ties can be made to political issues, but first and foremost, this guy is a nutjob and just killed six and wounded 14.

I agree, but also find there is political enough of an angle to perhaps have some good come out of it, hopefully in terms of lowering the temperature of political rhetoric. I mean, you can hardly imagine Sharon Angle speaking of "2nd Amendment remedies" tomorrow, huh? Or Sarah Palin now posting Congressperson's names along with a map of cross-hairs, and tweeting "Resist and Reload."

Not surprisingly, I suppose, I completely agree with every word of this rather brilliant rant.

CoasterMatt · 01-11-2011, 08:53 PM

I also would like to point out, that Obama himself did some of this boneheaded, ugly stuff by saying "If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun"

This guy was a nutjob- just like Oswald, just like Bremer, just like Hinckley.

01-09-2011, 10:37 AM	#1
JWBear Worn Romantic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Long Beach California Posts: 8,435	Yeah... It doesn't sound like he had any particular political agenda. Mein Kompf and the Communist Manifesto are at complete opposite ends of the political spectrum. He's just your garden variety insane. However, that hasn't stopped people from both sides of the political fence from proclaiming him a believer of the other side's. __________________ Unrestrained frivolity will lead to the downfall of modern society.
	Submit to Quotes

01-09-2011, 11:54 AM	#4
Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	He listed all sorts of books as favorites - including Alice in Wonderland. But, his statement about the government wanting to control our minds through grammar is a bit odd, to say the least.
	Submit to Quotes

01-10-2011, 06:00 PM	#6
JWBear Worn Romantic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Long Beach California Posts: 8,435	I'm getting sick and tired of the right claiming Loughner was a "leftie" because he read Mein Kampf! Nazi's were right-wing! What uninformed idiots! __________________ Unrestrained frivolity will lead to the downfall of modern society.
	Submit to Quotes

01-11-2011, 08:53 PM	#10
CoasterMatt BRAAAAAAAINS! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: One Step Beyond... Posts: 8,802	I also would like to point out, that Obama himself did some of this boneheaded, ugly stuff by saying "If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun" This guy was a nutjob- just like Oswald, just like Bremer, just like Hinckley. __________________ Do you like my photography? Visit photosbymatt.tumblr.com to purchase prints!
	Submit to Quotes