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Old 03-10-2011, 10:33 PM   #1
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Really? I thought all ARCO stations, as a corporation, charged the 45 cent fee. I have never been to one that doesn't. And in fact, I will only go there if I have cash because that fee ticks me off. To charge me to do buisness with them just means I'll go elsewhere.
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I've never been to an ARCO that takes any type of credit card at the pump. Just debit cards (with a transaction fee). But maybe it isn't universal like I thought.
The first one I noticed it at was the one by DL. When moved here 4+ years ago I noticed it at the Arco by my place. Last weekend we stopped at an Arco on the way out of Vegas (by the new M) that had signs posted 'cash or credit only, no debit. All cards will be processed as credit'. The one thing I noticed about the three that I've come across is they are all newer style pumps. The Arco by my parents (in HB) or my office (Anaheim and Fullerton) do not take credit.
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Old 03-10-2011, 08:09 PM   #2
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Kevy: No, but they are responsible, to some extent, for the economy. And since we accept as fact that there are a large number of stupid people in this country, large enough to affect the economy should they all go down at once in a big credit mess, then they would be wise to avoid policies that shove people in the direction of bad debt acquisition.
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Old 03-10-2011, 08:27 PM   #3
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The "cash discount" at gas stations ticks me off because it's a total end-around the law. In the late 80s they made it illegal to charge a fee for a credit card transaction. All the "cash discount it" is a rebranding of the old "credit charge". It's functionally identical. If I recall correctly, some gas stations even tried it at the time the law passed and they were made to stop. I guess it's been long enough that no one remembers.
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Old 03-10-2011, 08:37 PM   #4
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It's illegal to charge for credit (and I think it's against Visa and MC TOS to require minimum purchase) but they can charge for debit?
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but they can charge for debit?
Yes. The state legislature passed a bill a couple years ago that would have barred it for credit cards as well but Schwarzenegger vetoed it. So far as know it did not come up again because the federal cap will most likely avoid the issue.

Schwarzenegger's stated logic was the eliminating the fee would simply transfer payment of the interchange fee from consumers who used a card thus causing the fee to spreading it among all consumers so those who used cash would be subsidizing those who don't.
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Old 03-11-2011, 10:56 AM   #6
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I use cash at the pump, have a Credit Union and use Discover allot . . . wonder what I will have to change.
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