Nine Eleven Decade - Page 5

Alex · 09-11-2011, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

But I don't seem to be in the mood for such an intense movie. Funny, I never seen to be in the mood to watch that film. Purchased it. Never in the mood to watch it. Heh.

Have you seen it at all? It really is well made and I respect the hell out of it, but I don't really expect I'll ever see it again.

innerSpaceman · 09-12-2011, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Have you seen it at all? It really is well made and I respect the hell out of it, but I don't really expect I'll ever see it again.

Yeah, I saw it in theaters. A very well-made movie and I tend to like films that handle real-life drama in a decent manner. This one qualifies, so I purchased it - but have yet to watch the DVD. Never been in the mood to potentially get really upset - - and yesterday's anniversary was no exception.

Morrigoon · 09-11-2011, 08:22 PM

I have the 9/11 documentary (the one by the French guys from inside WTC) on DVD. After that, all other coverage seems trite and cloying.

alphabassettgrrl · 09-11-2011, 08:34 PM

I've spent the day avoiding media. I don't need to be reminded of the horror. I don't need to be reminded to "never forget". I was supposed to go to our city's ceremony today as part of the volunteer group to which I belong, but I just can't face the obligatory patriotism, to hear again the songs they *always* play, the flags.... just no.

I heard it said that to heal from a trauma, you kind of have to forget and that makes a lot of sense to me. Not forget in a way to pretend it never happened, but forget the sheer force of it, the overwhelming feelings, the fact that it was traumatizing. Some distance is good sometimes, and in order to avoid seeing boogeymen around every corner, I'm doing a tiny bit of forgetting.

BarTopDancer · 09-11-2011, 08:43 PM

People invoke 9/11 so often that it became another catch phrase and is trite. I think we'd all be good to remember how we felt that day, how we, as a country pulled together to support each other and try to heal the divide that has overtaken the nation on both sides. It shouldn't be the right against the left and it's disgusting that we have gone down this path. If it doesn't stop we will have destroyed ourselves. Or maybe that's what the terrorists wanted, to light the fuse that will cause us to implode.

Ghoulish Delight · 09-11-2011, 08:44 PM

Coverage during football was actually somewhat less annoying than I anticipated. The worst part was actually one of the ads that was referencing it (don't recall what it was for). For some reason they felt the need to show several closeups of the Statue of Liberty's armpit.

No, I take that back. The worst of it was the Anheuser Busch ad where the Clydsdales kneel/bow in front of NYC. Ew.

Gn2Dlnd · 09-11-2011, 10:56 PM

Today, at my farmer's mkt.:

1) One of the hummus guys, Mehdi is his name, asked me if I was celebrating 9/11. Shocked, I asked him what he meant by "celebrating." He said, "Do you believe in 9/11?," to which I replied, "Uh, yeah, 9/11 happened..." He said, "Well, do you think some guys, or the Taliban or something crashed the airplanes, or do you think it was an inside job?," all the while grinning at me in a way that told me his opinion would likely differ from mine. This is a guy who I've been friendly with over the years, and I was a little thrown. I dropped my helpful I-must-be-misunderstanding-you attitude, and said, "Yes, I believe those planes were crashed by exactly who we were told crashed them, and no I don't believe that our government decided to crash a few planes full of people for no good reason. I also don't think that the people of Afghanistan had anything to do with it, but George Bush and his gang made some decisions I don't agree with." As my voice was slightly raised by this point, he then beat a hasty retreat. I'm left to wonder how common is the belief in some secret governmental conspiracy regarding 9/11.

2) A customer I recognize was kind of "stuck" in front of my table for a while. After I ran out of friendly chit-chat, I asked him if the people he was waiting for had ditched him, ha-ha. He told me that he had just walked out of church in the middle of the sermon because the pastor was telling a modernized version of the story of Joseph and his brothers, at one point comparing someone in the story's behavior with the Taliban. My customer's story started escalating to the point that he started bring up some of the horrible imagery of 9/11, at which point I had to stop him, saying, "Look, I understand you're upset, but I'm incredibly sensitive about this stuff. I really can't have this conversation with you." He apologized, I felt a little bad for not being able to let him vent, but he seemed to understand. I suggested that he talk to his Pastor after he cools down, let him know how his sermon made him feel. He was obviously distressed, but he thanked me, and told me I was a "good man."

I did not turn on the news, not even KNX for traffic or NPR for the hourly update. I worked my mkt., went up to Universal and ate BBQ'd chicken for dinner, and went to my meeting. Unless there's an earthquake, I don't expect to turn on any news sources until tomorrow. That's how I spent my 9/11/11.

Strangler Lewis · 09-12-2011, 06:11 AM

Not sure I need to see it again, but I liked the Clydesdale ad when it came out at the time.

Ghoulish Delight · 09-12-2011, 08:27 AM

I'm disappointed to learn that access to the WTC memorial site is by ticketed appointment and involves full airport-style security screening. I do hope that is only a temporary thing while it's new and will be drawing huge crowds that would overwhelm it. Because the irony in that is painful.

innerSpaceman · 09-12-2011, 11:21 AM

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I'm disappointed to learn that access to the WTC memorial site is by ticketed appointment and involves full airport-style security screening. I do hope that is only a temporary thing while it's new and will be drawing huge crowds that would overwhelm it. Because the irony in that is painful.

Irony? I'm not seeing it. You don't think there should be airport-style security to a site with the biggest Terrorist target on it? Or are you referring to the limited entry? I hope there will be no need for that sometime in the future, but for now they are limiting the space to 1500 people at a time. I don't think there's anything wrong with that limit, or with acknowledging that allowing 5000 people to cram in to that space would tend to defeat the comptemplative purpose of most of those visits.

09-11-2011, 08:22 PM	#3
Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	I have the 9/11 documentary (the one by the French guys from inside WTC) on DVD. After that, all other coverage seems trite and cloying. __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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09-11-2011, 08:34 PM	#4
alphabassettgrrl Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,978	I've spent the day avoiding media. I don't need to be reminded of the horror. I don't need to be reminded to "never forget". I was supposed to go to our city's ceremony today as part of the volunteer group to which I belong, but I just can't face the obligatory patriotism, to hear again the songs they always play, the flags.... just no. I heard it said that to heal from a trauma, you kind of have to forget and that makes a lot of sense to me. Not forget in a way to pretend it never happened, but forget the sheer force of it, the overwhelming feelings, the fact that it was traumatizing. Some distance is good sometimes, and in order to avoid seeing boogeymen around every corner, I'm doing a tiny bit of forgetting. __________________ Why cycling? Anything [sport] that had to do with a ball, I wasn't very good at. -Lance Armstrong
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09-11-2011, 08:43 PM	#5
BarTopDancer Prepping... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Here, there, everywhere Posts: 11,405	People invoke 9/11 so often that it became another catch phrase and is trite. I think we'd all be good to remember how we felt that day, how we, as a country pulled together to support each other and try to heal the divide that has overtaken the nation on both sides. It shouldn't be the right against the left and it's disgusting that we have gone down this path. If it doesn't stop we will have destroyed ourselves. Or maybe that's what the terrorists wanted, to light the fuse that will cause us to implode. __________________ Spork is the new MacGyver Postcards From My Edge
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09-11-2011, 08:44 PM	#6
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Coverage during football was actually somewhat less annoying than I anticipated. The worst part was actually one of the ads that was referencing it (don't recall what it was for). For some reason they felt the need to show several closeups of the Statue of Liberty's armpit. No, I take that back. The worst of it was the Anheuser Busch ad where the Clydsdales kneel/bow in front of NYC. Ew. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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09-11-2011, 10:56 PM	#7
Gn2Dlnd Parmmadore Jim Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Casita del Queso Posts: 3,810	Today, at my farmer's mkt.: 1) One of the hummus guys, Mehdi is his name, asked me if I was celebrating 9/11. Shocked, I asked him what he meant by "celebrating." He said, "Do you believe in 9/11?," to which I replied, "Uh, yeah, 9/11 happened..." He said, "Well, do you think some guys, or the Taliban or something crashed the airplanes, or do you think it was an inside job?," all the while grinning at me in a way that told me his opinion would likely differ from mine. This is a guy who I've been friendly with over the years, and I was a little thrown. I dropped my helpful I-must-be-misunderstanding-you attitude, and said, "Yes, I believe those planes were crashed by exactly who we were told crashed them, and no I don't believe that our government decided to crash a few planes full of people for no good reason. I also don't think that the people of Afghanistan had anything to do with it, but George Bush and his gang made some decisions I don't agree with." As my voice was slightly raised by this point, he then beat a hasty retreat. I'm left to wonder how common is the belief in some secret governmental conspiracy regarding 9/11. 2) A customer I recognize was kind of "stuck" in front of my table for a while. After I ran out of friendly chit-chat, I asked him if the people he was waiting for had ditched him, ha-ha. He told me that he had just walked out of church in the middle of the sermon because the pastor was telling a modernized version of the story of Joseph and his brothers, at one point comparing someone in the story's behavior with the Taliban. My customer's story started escalating to the point that he started bring up some of the horrible imagery of 9/11, at which point I had to stop him, saying, "Look, I understand you're upset, but I'm incredibly sensitive about this stuff. I really can't have this conversation with you." He apologized, I felt a little bad for not being able to let him vent, but he seemed to understand. I suggested that he talk to his Pastor after he cools down, let him know how his sermon made him feel. He was obviously distressed, but he thanked me, and told me I was a "good man." I did not turn on the news, not even KNX for traffic or NPR for the hourly update. I worked my mkt., went up to Universal and ate BBQ'd chicken for dinner, and went to my meeting. Unless there's an earthquake, I don't expect to turn on any news sources until tomorrow. That's how I spent my 9/11/11. __________________ Does anyone still wear a hat?
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09-12-2011, 06:11 AM	#8
Strangler Lewis Doing The Job Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a state Posts: 3,956	Not sure I need to see it again, but I liked the Clydesdale ad when it came out at the time. __________________ Live now-pay later. Diner's Club!
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09-12-2011, 08:27 AM	#9
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	I'm disappointed to learn that access to the WTC memorial site is by ticketed appointment and involves full airport-style security screening. I do hope that is only a temporary thing while it's new and will be drawing huge crowds that would overwhelm it. Because the irony in that is painful. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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