Katrina Response Mismanagement - Page 27

Gn2Dlnd · 09-16-2005, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

You mean like the work on the levees that mysteriously stopped after Bush left? Or the town that Bush's motorcade drove through yesterday that miraculously regained power 30 minutes prior to said drive-through only for it to be turned off again an hour later? Naw, would never happen.

From Brian Williams, NBC Nightly News http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9314188/#050916:

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I am duty-bound to report the talk of the New Orleans warehouse district last night: there was rejoicing (well, there would have been without the curfew, but the few people I saw on the streets were excited) when the power came back on for blocks on end. Kevin Tibbles was positively jubilant on the live update edition of Nightly News that we fed to the West Coast. The mini-mart, long ago cleaned out by looters, was nonetheless bathed in light, including the empty, roped-off gas pumps. The motorcade route through the district was partially lit no more than 30 minutes before POTUS drove through. And yet last night, no more than an hour after the President departed, the lights went out. The entire area was plunged into total darkness again, to audible groans. It's enough to make some of the folks here who witnessed it... jump to certain conclusions.

Nephythys · 09-16-2005, 01:01 PM

ya know what's funny- the way people like to piegon hole others-

I'm conservative about many things- but very central on others......
I think Bush is better than Kerry ever would have been- so far there has not been a democrat I could vote for- would I if they would do the things I want done- in a heartbeat.
Just the other day my mom, who is even more conservative than I- said that sometimes she can't stand Bush- she thinks he can be such a wimp. We are both very unhappy about many many things he has done- or not done!
But what I have no patience for is the drivel passed off as leftist rhetoric- as if somehow that is supposed to batter us into going whole hog for your idealogy- it won't happen. Clinton was not impeached for a BJ, and I don't appreciate having my intelligence insulted by the claim otherwise-

PanTheMan · 09-16-2005, 01:23 PM

I am odd in that I have views from Conservative to liberal and everywhere in between.
I have NEVER voted for Barbara Boxer, even when i know little about who is against her, they still get my vote.

I think 95% of America is In the Middle. And I think those out on the fringe who scream and kick like spoiled childern get all the Press.

Bush has shown on several occasions he does well when he has a few days to reherse what he has been told to say. Great Leader? No.

Kerry would have been the same. Giving the speeches that were written for him. Gore would have been better, as he would put us to sleep with his speeches, and while asleep we wouldn't care....lol. But under Gore, we would NOT be in IRAQ, and we would still have FEMA seperate and under qualified leadership. Who Knows, might even have Bin Laden in prison.

But I will tell you all a Little Secret. That it is WE THE PEOPLE who are in charge. WE THE PEOPLE cannot be governed without our consent to be governed. WE THE PEOPLE need to rise up and stop being SHEEP to an Idiot or Idiots who have THEIR best intrests taken care of, but not OURS. WE THE PEOPLE can change things, but as long as we fight eachother and not them, THEY will continue on, left and right, and WE THE PEOPLE will continue to bicker and whine.

Nephythys · 09-16-2005, 01:26 PM

Gore??

wow- that made me laugh out loud- thanks!

Gn2Dlnd · 09-16-2005, 01:43 PM

I thought this was an interesting line from last night's speech:

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The government of this nation will do its part, as well. Our cities must have clear and up-to-date plans for responding to natural disasters, and disease outbreaks, or a terrorist attack, for evacuating large numbers of people in an emergency, and for providing the food and water and security they would need. In a time of terror threats and weapons of mass destruction, the danger to our citizens reaches much wider than a fault line or a flood plain.

They're baaack!

Morrigoon · 09-16-2005, 01:46 PM

GD: I'm not saying carefully orchestrated photo ops don't exist... we've seen plenty of evidence that they do.

I'm just saying that even if someone could react exactly perfectly, if a significant portion of the population (eg: the "other" political party) was already predisposed to dislike anything someone did, then the "perfect" reaction would have its motivations questioned.

Ghoulish Delight · 09-16-2005, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Morrigoon

..then the "perfect" reaction would have its motivations questioned.

Probably true, but if the actions truly were correct, then those questions could easily be answered.

Morrigoon · 09-16-2005, 01:53 PM

Nah. Truth has no place in the court of public opinion.

Gn2Dlnd · 09-16-2005, 02:11 PM

Not that it has any bearing on the proceedings in New Orleans, did anyone else notice that GW's shirt was buttoned wrong?

http://www.c-span.org/

Realplayer video is 4th down.

Nicely pressed, though.

Motorboat Cruiser · 09-16-2005, 02:14 PM

That kind of sums up his presidency...

Buttoned wrong but nicely pressed.

09-16-2005, 01:01 PM	#2
Nephythys Yeah, that's about it- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a state of constant crap to get done Posts: 2,688	ya know what's funny- the way people like to piegon hole others- I'm conservative about many things- but very central on others...... I think Bush is better than Kerry ever would have been- so far there has not been a democrat I could vote for- would I if they would do the things I want done- in a heartbeat. Just the other day my mom, who is even more conservative than I- said that sometimes she can't stand Bush- she thinks he can be such a wimp. We are both very unhappy about many many things he has done- or not done! But what I have no patience for is the drivel passed off as leftist rhetoric- as if somehow that is supposed to batter us into going whole hog for your idealogy- it won't happen. Clinton was not impeached for a BJ, and I don't appreciate having my intelligence insulted by the claim otherwise-
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09-16-2005, 01:23 PM	#3
PanTheMan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Somewhere between you, and just over there. Posts: 258	I am odd in that I have views from Conservative to liberal and everywhere in between. I have NEVER voted for Barbara Boxer, even when i know little about who is against her, they still get my vote. I think 95% of America is In the Middle. And I think those out on the fringe who scream and kick like spoiled childern get all the Press. Bush has shown on several occasions he does well when he has a few days to reherse what he has been told to say. Great Leader? No. Kerry would have been the same. Giving the speeches that were written for him. Gore would have been better, as he would put us to sleep with his speeches, and while asleep we wouldn't care....lol. But under Gore, we would NOT be in IRAQ, and we would still have FEMA seperate and under qualified leadership. Who Knows, might even have Bin Laden in prison. But I will tell you all a Little Secret. That it is WE THE PEOPLE who are in charge. WE THE PEOPLE cannot be governed without our consent to be governed. WE THE PEOPLE need to rise up and stop being SHEEP to an Idiot or Idiots who have THEIR best intrests taken care of, but not OURS. WE THE PEOPLE can change things, but as long as we fight eachother and not them, THEY will continue on, left and right, and WE THE PEOPLE will continue to bicker and whine. __________________ What if the Hokey Pokey IS what it's all about? ....
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09-16-2005, 01:26 PM	#4
Nephythys Yeah, that's about it- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a state of constant crap to get done Posts: 2,688	Gore?? wow- that made me laugh out loud- thanks!
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09-16-2005, 01:46 PM	#6
Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	GD: I'm not saying carefully orchestrated photo ops don't exist... we've seen plenty of evidence that they do. I'm just saying that even if someone could react exactly perfectly, if a significant portion of the population (eg: the "other" political party) was already predisposed to dislike anything someone did, then the "perfect" reaction would have its motivations questioned. __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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09-16-2005, 01:53 PM	#8
Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	Nah. Truth has no place in the court of public opinion. __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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09-16-2005, 02:11 PM	#9
Gn2Dlnd Parmmadore Jim Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Casita del Queso Posts: 3,810	Not that it has any bearing on the proceedings in New Orleans, did anyone else notice that GW's shirt was buttoned wrong? http://www.c-span.org/ Realplayer video is 4th down. Nicely pressed, though. __________________ Does anyone still wear a hat?
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09-16-2005, 02:14 PM	#10
Motorboat Cruiser Cruiser of Motorboats Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: So Cal Posts: 3,665	That kind of sums up his presidency... Buttoned wrong but nicely pressed.
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