Sneaky meat rice!

[Prudence]

You know what feels reeeeeeaaaaaly nice? Sea otter pelt. But you can't get it legally. (They had sample pelts for show and tell at the aquarium.) Damned endangered species!

[Cadaverous Pallor]

All the following is IMHO.

I'm with on this one. I feel a large kinship with plants. Every time I've made my pilgrimage to Sequoia National Forest I've thought about these living things that are ridiculously old. I mean, you cut these things and they bleed! Making a house out of the bones of trees is basically the same thing as making one out of buffalo hides...a living thing died for your own comfort. That's the way it is, and I'm ok with that.

I'm an animal lover, and I'm a total nutcase when it comes to anything small and furry. But I have no qualms about thinking baby chicks are adorable and then eating roast chicken (or eggs, for that matter).

I gotta say this - Saying that using animals for food and clothing is "bad" is like saying sex is "bad". It's how we were designed. I'm no self-hater.

Of course it's a free country and everyone can abstain from whatever they want.

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

I gotta say this - Saying that using animals for food and clothing is "bad" is like saying sex is "bad". It's how we were designed. I'm no self-hater.

Of course it's a free country and everyone can abstain from whatever they want.

You know, no one said it was bad. I said it twice, it's a personal choice. I looked at a cow one day and suddenly didn't see a difference between eating a cow and eating my own cat. So, rather than decide it's okay for me to eat my own cat, I decided it's no longer okay for me to eat cows. Not having that kind of emotional attachment to plants (which I seem to be able to kill just by looking at them sideways, even though I attempt plant ownership with the best of intentions), I don't feel so bad about consuming them. And, same goes for fish. That may change in future; I don't know.

But I doubt I'll ever become one of those peole who ONLY eat what's fallen off the vine. I just...I'd be so effin' hungry all the time. Heh.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Eliza Hodgkins 1812

You know, no one said it was bad. I said it twice, it's a personal choice. I looked at a cow one day and suddenly didn't see a difference between eating a cow and eating my own cat. So, rather than decide it's okay for me to eat my own cat, I decided it's no longer okay for me to eat cows. Not having that kind of emotional attachment to plants (which I seem to be able to kill just by looking at them sideways, even though I attempt plant ownership with the best of intentions), I don't feel so bad about consuming them. And, same goes for fish. That may change in future; I don't know.

I hope you don't mind but these are my sentiments exactally.

For me eating a carrot does not envoke the same feelings as eating cow. But that may have to do with what I saw coming home from the Grand Canyon. I know my red meat consumption dropped drastically after that.

But I doubt I'll ever become one of those peole who ONLY eat what's fallen off the vine. I just...I'd be so effin' hungry all the time. Heh.

Oh heck no.

And I'm not getting rid of my leather boots or suede coats. And that's OK.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Originally Posted by Eliza Hodgkins 1812

You know, no one said it was bad. I said it twice, it's a personal choice.

Oh, I never meant you'd said that. Sorry! I just got off on a little rant there. I hate when people try to push the concept that it's a true sin. I know you'd never do that, babe.

Mmmm tasty fuzzy babies....

[Prudence]

My dad grew up on a farm. We visited the grandparents on the farm. We played with the cows in the summer and ate them in the winter. I wouldn't eat my cat, because he's become a pet. But I would try cat if I was in a country where cat was eaten. If I go a day without eating meat it feels like I really haven't eaten. I'm also slightly anemic and hate the texture of legumes, so it's a good thing I like meat or I'd be passing out all the time. Mmmmm.

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

Originally Posted by Prudence

My dad grew up on a farm. We visited the grandparents on the farm. We played with the cows in the summer and ate them in the winter. I wouldn't eat my cat, because he's become a pet. But I would try cat if I was in a country where cat was eaten. If I go a day without eating meat it feels like I really haven't eaten. I'm also slightly anemic and hate the texture of legumes, so it's a good thing I like meat or I'd be passing out all the time. Mmmmm.

Yeah, I wouldn't knowingly try cat. I'd feel like a cannibal. Actually, I'd find it easier to be a cannibal than a cat eater, I think. And I'd love to have a pet goat someday. And a pet cow. And a pet lemur. Heh.

If I were anemic, I'd eat meat. As it stands, I just get really ticked off when I'm hungry. And shakey. Nothing a salad wouldn't fix.

At least I got to try quail before I stopped eating bird. Quail was really, really yummy.

[Prudence]

If I let my iron levels get too low, I perform truly entertaining stunts, like falling out of chairs, sponaneously collapsing in hallways, and so forth. Fun!

I'd like to have sheep. I'd spin wool and eat mutton. And goats. I've never tried goat, but I have recipes! And I know how to make goat milk cheese. Yum! And I could spin angora goat hair. Did I mention that I've helped shear a goat before? I should really get that film developed. His name was Morley and he was annoyed with us so he kept pissing on his fleece.

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

Originally Posted by Prudence

If I let my iron levels get too low, I perform truly entertaining stunts, like falling out of chairs, sponaneously collapsing in hallways, and so forth. Fun!

I'd like to have sheep. I'd spin wool and eat mutton. And goats. I've never tried goat, but I have recipes! And I know how to make goat milk cheese. Yum! And I could spin angora goat hair. Did I mention that I've helped shear a goat before? I should really get that film developed. His name was Morley and he was annoyed with us so he kept pissing on his fleece.

Morley is a perfect name for a goat.

Goat meat is really, really tasty. I also really love Ox tail. I don't think I'd be able to maintain a mostly vegetarian diet if I still lived in NYC.

[Prudence]

Damn. I so want to try goat. You're now the umpteenth person to tell me that it's tasty. Why is there no goat at the grocery store? I suspect I need to find a Halal grocery. Maybe the people at the Gyro House will refer me. They make great food at the Gyro House. I think that's a chain franchise or something, but they basically do their own stuff. I think they're Pakistani. They have great food -- including a lot of actual vegetarian stuff. If you ever come up here, I'll take you and we'll both have yummy meals.