Societal norms, the Moral Majority and a rant that feels so good - Page 4

Alex · 10-31-2005, 10:11 PM

Never mind

tracilicious · 11-01-2005, 09:17 AM

Hmmm...What I don't quite get is the kids thing. I can understand someone disagreeing with people bringing other people into their marriage. I'm not saying they should say something about it or that I personally care what others do, but I can see why some might not agree. But do they think you're going to be performing bisexual acts in front of their kids?

I probably wouldn't let my kids hang out with kids whose parents did certain things I don't approve of. I'm not sure what those things are yet, I probably wouldn't let them go to a house where there is smoking or drinking around them or drug use, etc. But common sense should dictate that your sex life isn't going to affect their children.

This must suck to explain to your kids. I'm sorry.

SacTown Chronic · 11-01-2005, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by tracilicious

But do they think you're going to be performing bisexual acts in front of their kids?

I think they do.

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Originally Posted by Crystal

What happened over the weekend has really left me depressed.

Already I'm seeing a change in your demeanor. Sorrow has been replaced by your resolve and sense of self that has always turned me on. You're getting back that "this is me and if you don't like it go f yourself" attitude that I admire so much. You're wonderful just the way you are and I wouldn't change a thing about you, Crystal.

I love you.

scaeagles · 11-01-2005, 10:09 AM

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You're wonderful just the way you are and I wouldn't change a thing about you, Crystal.

I love you.

Would you two get a room already?

(feel free to invite anyone else you may wish

)

Alex · 11-01-2005, 10:18 AM

If someone engages in behavior that I think sufficient cause for me to sever ties, I'm not going to allow my (mythical) children to socialize with them either. So that part makes sense to me, I just disagree with the judgment.

That said, if there is a grapevine version of events going around (which if I recall is how they learned about it), you have to wonder what details are going along with it.

Crystal · 11-01-2005, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

If someone engages in behavior that I think sufficient cause for me to sever ties, I'm not going to allow my (mythical) children to socialize with them either. So that part makes sense to me, I just disagree with the judgment.

That said, if there is a grapevine version of events going around (which if I recall is how they learned about it), you have to wonder what details are going along with it.

I'm not really concerned about the details of what is going along with it through the grapevine. Quite frankly, other people's opinions do not matter to me and if they want to gossip, then they are free to do so. I'm comfortable with who I am and am very secure with myself and my marriage. The only reason any of this has bothered me is because I have been friends with these people for 8 years and it is painful to lose a friendship, and even more painful for me to know that my children will be losing friendships as well.

In regards to not allowing my children to socialize with another's children, I would only allow that if I felt my children were in danger due to the other parent's behavior. My sexuality has absolutely no effect on the children, it's not as if I share any of this info with the kids, or ever behave in a sexual manner around the children. It is just absurd that these people would assume that I would now, knowing that in 8 years I never have. But, hey, their choice and I won't discuss it with them any further,I'm movin' on.

Crystal · 11-01-2005, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SacTown Chronic

You're wonderful just the way you are and I wouldn't change a thing about you, Crystal.

I love you.

Hmmm...I wonder if you said this cuz you think you'll get one "thrown your way" tonight?

of course, you'd be right

This is gonna be a looong day

Mousey Girl · 11-01-2005, 03:57 PM

Coming from the "Mommy" angle, even if she hadn't said that your kids weren't welcome to play wither hers anymore I think I would have made sure that they didn't get together. I would be concerned that she would start mouthing off to your kids, who know what she would have filled their heads with. It is one thing to pass judgement on an adult, but when you start attacking the parent behind their back and in front of their kids, that is going too far.

innerSpaceman · 11-01-2005, 05:54 PM

I guess one way of making the distinction is a) deciding that a crack habit is not for you (or your kids) vs. b) deciding that a crack habit is bad/evil/objectively wrong.

Another way of making the distinction would be a) deciding that having a crack habit is a poor choice vs. b) deciding that the crackhead is a bad or evil person.

In all cases, an analysis and determination is made. But the judgmental attitudes of holier-than-thou or I-know-all-about-you-via-this-one-thing or my-way-is-the-right-way-for-all-on-this-earth ... those attitudes are not necessary parts of the process, and are what, imo, separate opinions from judgments.

Not Afraid · 11-01-2005, 06:40 PM

Why? I was stupid then, why shouldn't I call others stupid when they do the same thing? It didn't suddenly become a smart idea in the last 10 years.

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tracilicious avatar transition Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: in-between Posts: 2,487	Hmmm...What I don't quite get is the kids thing. I can understand someone disagreeing with people bringing other people into their marriage. I'm not saying they should say something about it or that I personally care what others do, but I can see why some might not agree. But do they think you're going to be performing bisexual acts in front of their kids? I probably wouldn't let my kids hang out with kids whose parents did certain things I don't approve of. I'm not sure what those things are yet, I probably wouldn't let them go to a house where there is smoking or drinking around them or drug use, etc. But common sense should dictate that your sex life isn't going to affect their children. This must suck to explain to your kids. I'm sorry. __________________ And now Harry, let us step into the night and pursue that flighty temptress, adventure! - Albus Dumbledore
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	If someone engages in behavior that I think sufficient cause for me to sever ties, I'm not going to allow my (mythical) children to socialize with them either. So that part makes sense to me, I just disagree with the judgment. That said, if there is a grapevine version of events going around (which if I recall is how they learned about it), you have to wonder what details are going along with it.
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Mousey Girl Just Me Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In The Flagon With The Dragon Posts: 2,437	Coming from the "Mommy" angle, even if she hadn't said that your kids weren't welcome to play wither hers anymore I think I would have made sure that they didn't get together. I would be concerned that she would start mouthing off to your kids, who know what she would have filled their heads with. It is one thing to pass judgement on an adult, but when you start attacking the parent behind their back and in front of their kids, that is going too far.
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	I guess one way of making the distinction is a) deciding that a crack habit is not for you (or your kids) vs. b) deciding that a crack habit is bad/evil/objectively wrong. Another way of making the distinction would be a) deciding that having a crack habit is a poor choice vs. b) deciding that the crackhead is a bad or evil person. In all cases, an analysis and determination is made. But the judgmental attitudes of holier-than-thou or I-know-all-about-you-via-this-one-thing or my-way-is-the-right-way-for-all-on-this-earth ... those attitudes are not necessary parts of the process, and are what, imo, separate opinions from judgments.
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Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	Why? I was stupid then, why shouldn't I call others stupid when they do the same thing? It didn't suddenly become a smart idea in the last 10 years.
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