The controversy over inaugural spending - Page 4

SacTown Chronic · 01-25-2005, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

And Clinton once said that when "people abuse their rights, sometimes the government must curtail them." Yeah, i know, not about Clinton, but politicians say stupid things all the time. And I fully admit what Bush said in that quote was stupid.

Bush backed up his words by having his lawyers try to get the website shut down. I agree that words are just words, but words backed by action are convictions.

scaeagles · 01-25-2005, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SacTown Chronic

Bush backed up his words by having his lawyers try to get the website shut down. I agree that words are just words, but words backed by action are convictions.

I have a question which is not meant to be rhetorical. What was the name of the website? I ask because I don't know, and the practice of "cyber squatting" has not received judicial support. For those who don't know, cyber squatting is the practice of registering a website with the name of someone famous (like GWBush.com) and then using it for purposes that the famous person does not support, or it is simply used to try to get the famous person to buy the rights to the website for lots and lots of money. One famous case I can think of involved Julia Roberts.

This may not be the case, but if the website was his name or some variation thereof, it was completely consistent with current judicial rulings to get the website shut down.

Gn2Dlnd · 01-22-2005, 01:32 PM

Y'know, I'd really dig it if you could lay off the "silly hippies" jive.

I'm not talking about curing all the world's ills. I'm talking about a self-congratulatory "wartime president" (his words, not mine) soliciting funds to throw parties while the residents of a country he started a war in are being killed by their "liberators."
Do you think that life has returned to normal in any of the countries hit by the tsunamis? It hasn't. It won't for a very long time. Homes have been destroyed. Entire villages have been washed away. There is no topsoil left for farming. There is no livestock left to raise. Thousands and thousands of bodies lie where the waves left them because there aren't enough people left to bury them. 10s of thousands of children have been orphaned. On and on and on.
This is the largest disaster to occur in most of our lifetimes. The neighbor's house is on fire, but we called 911. Isn't that enough? We're a little busy right now, because Timmy's having a party tonight. In fact, because we're so proud of him for being elected ASB president, we're having several parties. The PTA has given us money, the School Board has given us money, And, get this, we got the entire Drama Club and Band budgets! One little problem, though. Since we're having the parties AT the school, we need the school to pick up the tab for the security guards (you know how kids like to drink at these thigs :wink, wink:) Oh, look. The neighbors are out in the yard with a garden hose. Good for them!

Gn2Dlnd · 01-23-2005, 02:23 AM

:shakes hands with Jazzman:

Yeah, but I get to be angry 'cause I don't like him.

Jazzman · 01-23-2005, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Gn2Dlnd

Yeah, but I get to be angry 'cause I don't like him.

Very good, I think I can live with that!

Jazzman · 01-26-2005, 01:02 AM

Thanks Tigertail. I'll check out WW. I really hadn't heard about that. And incidentally, I feel very much the same as you regarding political issues. I quite disagree with "Party Monkeys" who simply punch the ballot spot that has their (R) or (D) on it. The elimination of political parties would do our nation good.

Jazzman · 01-26-2005, 01:16 AM

I do find it slightly amusing (in an ironic way) that there are protests over Bush having an inauguration after the tsunami, yet nobody says a word about the government of Indonesia kicking out U.S. troops who were only there to help. They'd rather let their own suffering citizens die than accept aid from the U.S. and its troops who are there to save them.

Yeah, we have it really bad here.

I've come to the conclusion that Americans like nothing more than to bitch about America.

tigertail777 · 01-23-2005, 06:17 AM

Dont forget he asked police officers from cities like portland to come be task force at his little event. First off with a person, never mind a president with power, do you really think any city asked is going to say no? With that in mind, he unthinkingly and callously asked for this little "favor" from cities struggling already to staff their police force. Portland already is spread awfully thin, and frankly I question the motives of a man that called the portland area "little beirut" because the majority could not be swayed into his way of thinking. As far as I am concerned that IS draining the tax payers coffers.

The party itself, while a selfish and frankly stupid thing to do, let alone showing us what he thinks of the war (obviously its not a real war right? cause we dont have to tighten the belts at all, like oh gee any other war that has happened) I guess was his perogitive. I am pretty mind boggled how the heck you pay that much for a party anyways... I really dont understand how thats possible unless you are giving golden goblets to guests or something? Catering can only be so high (unless you go for the absolute most expensive products, and dont put any capper on how much food is to made) and thats the bulk of a party really... I dont get it at all.. how do you spend that much on a party? Plastic surgery free to every guest or something? That has to be some super duper party favors.... "oh ha ha honey would you look at that, we just won a new summer home in connecticut, what a super party!"

Jazzman · 01-23-2005, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tigertail777

Dont forget he asked police officers from cities like portland to come be task force at his little event.

Do you have any citation for this assertion? I’m not saying that I don’t believe you, I simply haven’t heard anything about it.

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Originally Posted by tigertail777

Portland already is spread awfully thin, and frankly I question the motives of a man that called the portland area "little Beirut" because the majority could not be swayed into his way of thinking. As far as I am concerned that IS draining the tax payers coffers.

Not that that is an altogether off-the-mark nickname for Portland. At least in D.C. the police were simply standing guard over happy people celebrating and ballroom dancing. Here in Portland every officer on the force had to be called in for OT, wearing riot gear, because once again Portland protesters couldn't be mature enough to merely protest. They had to vandalize public and private property, disrupt traffic, break out in fighting, and even chain themselves to gas pumps. Yes, much much better than somebody ballroom dancing to honor their President.

sleepyjeff · 01-23-2005, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tigertail777

Portland already is spread awfully thin, and frankly I question the motives of a man that called the portland area "little beirut" because the majority could not be swayed into his way of thinking.

No, he called it little Beirut because it has a reputation for violent protest. He didn't even coin the phrase and both his Father and Bill Clinton, durring their administrations, have used the reference to our fair City(I know, this isn't about Clinton

)

What really chaps my hide is that most of these protesters are not even from Portland, but are from all around the country and attend local colleges from as far away as Eugene and Seatle.....and for some reason anytime there is someone of note in Portland they come down here and tie up traffic at best and destroy property and assault innocents at worse

It's not even a party thing as they have done this to many others outside the Republican party most recently at a Hillary Clinton book signing(I know, this isn't about Clinton

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01-22-2005, 01:32 PM	#3
Gn2Dlnd Parmmadore Jim Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Casita del Queso Posts: 3,810	Y'know, I'd really dig it if you could lay off the "silly hippies" jive. I'm not talking about curing all the world's ills. I'm talking about a self-congratulatory "wartime president" (his words, not mine) soliciting funds to throw parties while the residents of a country he started a war in are being killed by their "liberators." Do you think that life has returned to normal in any of the countries hit by the tsunamis? It hasn't. It won't for a very long time. Homes have been destroyed. Entire villages have been washed away. There is no topsoil left for farming. There is no livestock left to raise. Thousands and thousands of bodies lie where the waves left them because there aren't enough people left to bury them. 10s of thousands of children have been orphaned. On and on and on. This is the largest disaster to occur in most of our lifetimes. The neighbor's house is on fire, but we called 911. Isn't that enough? We're a little busy right now, because Timmy's having a party tonight. In fact, because we're so proud of him for being elected ASB president, we're having several parties. The PTA has given us money, the School Board has given us money, And, get this, we got the entire Drama Club and Band budgets! One little problem, though. Since we're having the parties AT the school, we need the school to pick up the tab for the security guards (you know how kids like to drink at these thigs :wink, wink:) Oh, look. The neighbors are out in the yard with a garden hose. Good for them! __________________ Does anyone still wear a hat?
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01-23-2005, 02:23 AM	#4
Gn2Dlnd Parmmadore Jim Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Casita del Queso Posts: 3,810	:shakes hands with Jazzman: Yeah, but I get to be angry 'cause I don't like him. __________________ Does anyone still wear a hat?
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01-26-2005, 01:02 AM	#6
Jazzman Sax God Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland's Tijuana Posts: 510	Thanks Tigertail. I'll check out WW. I really hadn't heard about that. And incidentally, I feel very much the same as you regarding political issues. I quite disagree with "Party Monkeys" who simply punch the ballot spot that has their (R) or (D) on it. The elimination of political parties would do our nation good.
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01-26-2005, 01:16 AM	#7
Jazzman Sax God Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland's Tijuana Posts: 510	I do find it slightly amusing (in an ironic way) that there are protests over Bush having an inauguration after the tsunami, yet nobody says a word about the government of Indonesia kicking out U.S. troops who were only there to help. They'd rather let their own suffering citizens die than accept aid from the U.S. and its troops who are there to save them. Yeah, we have it really bad here. I've come to the conclusion that Americans like nothing more than to bitch about America.
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01-23-2005, 06:17 AM	#8
tigertail777 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 22	Dont forget he asked police officers from cities like portland to come be task force at his little event. First off with a person, never mind a president with power, do you really think any city asked is going to say no? With that in mind, he unthinkingly and callously asked for this little "favor" from cities struggling already to staff their police force. Portland already is spread awfully thin, and frankly I question the motives of a man that called the portland area "little beirut" because the majority could not be swayed into his way of thinking. As far as I am concerned that IS draining the tax payers coffers. The party itself, while a selfish and frankly stupid thing to do, let alone showing us what he thinks of the war (obviously its not a real war right? cause we dont have to tighten the belts at all, like oh gee any other war that has happened) I guess was his perogitive. I am pretty mind boggled how the heck you pay that much for a party anyways... I really dont understand how thats possible unless you are giving golden goblets to guests or something? Catering can only be so high (unless you go for the absolute most expensive products, and dont put any capper on how much food is to made) and thats the bulk of a party really... I dont get it at all.. how do you spend that much on a party? Plastic surgery free to every guest or something? That has to be some super duper party favors.... "oh ha ha honey would you look at that, we just won a new summer home in connecticut, what a super party!"
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