Ford pulls LR/Jag GLBT support due to American Family threat - Page 3

Gemini Cricket · 12-07-2005, 09:34 AM

Here's something I heard from a reliable source:

Ford is continuing its advertising of Volvo in gay publications, but the ads will no longer be gay specific like they used to be. Now their ads are generic.

AND

Ford has agreed not to sponsor any future gay and lesbian events but will continue to maintain its employee policies, such as same-sex partner benefits.

Ford caved big time.

Ghoulish Delight · 12-07-2005, 09:48 AM

Ugh, pathetic.

BarTopDancer · 12-07-2005, 10:21 AM

So... How about a boycot of Volvo by the gay community?

Gn2Dlnd · 12-07-2005, 10:40 AM

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So... How about a boycot of Volvo by the gay community?

Umm... How about a boycott of Ford by all people who oppose discrimination?

Ford is, of course, entitled to advertise to whom, and in what ways, they see fit. The very fact that Ford met with Dobson at all is astonishing and offensive to me.

Gn2Dlnd · 12-07-2005, 12:46 PM

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The very fact that Ford met with Dobson at all is astonishing and offensive to me.

Oops, I meant the other nutball, Donald Wildmon. Thanks GC.

No offense to Dr. Dobson.

Hard to keep my homophobes straight, you should pardon the expression.

Cadaverous Pallor · 12-07-2005, 11:18 AM

At least it's easy to boycott a car company, especially an American one.

innerSpaceman · 12-07-2005, 11:26 AM

Where is the leaked memo of this purported deal? I will not accept from members of this board (and will rarely even accept from journalists) the claim that there's an unnamed insider source whose identity must be shielded.

I drive a Ford Explorer, and I've got my own reasons for never again buying a Ford vehicle. In any event, I consider an organized boycott to be an absurd endeavor ... whether it's urged by American Family or by gay Americans.

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

Ford is continuing its advertising of Volvo in gay publications, but the ads will no longer be gay specific like they used to be. Now their ads are generic.

What in the world does this mean? Gay-specific car ads? (zapppop's gayday shirt slogan "Pumped and Injected" comes to mind, but nothing else.)

I confess I've never seen a car ad in a gay-magazine. I'm one of those traitorous homosexuals who has the gaul to read the same magazines, watch the same tv, and post on the same message boards as other Americans do - with no regard to coloring every aspect of my life with gay, just because I like to have sex with men.

Frankly, I find it insulting that there ever were gay-specific car ads, and I am relieved if anything of the sort is being discontinued.

Gemini Cricket · 12-07-2005, 12:11 PM

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I confess I've never seen a car ad in a gay-magazine.

Now you have.

Because one reads the magazines and pubs 'everyone else' reads does not mean they can not also read gay pubs. By reading/buying gay publications you give money to a company that without a doubt supports gay people. By supporting companies that are wishy-washy on gay rights guarantees nothing. The idea that the money I spend could be used (campaign donations, support of anti-gay churches etc) to strip me of the rights I have or am fighting for is reprehensible. I'd rather support a company when I know where they stand.

I, for one, like gay specific ads. If they're in a gay pub, why not be? I like to see that a company acknowledges me and who I am. It doesn't guarantee I'll buy a Volvo, but at least I know they are gay friendly in case it comes up. And, if I could ever afford a Volvo one day, I'd definitely consider them. But now with this whole Ford mess, I'm not sure.

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Trying to get you to buy a car is not support.

Acknowledgement of your existence is supportive.

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

How is it SUPPORT of the GLBT community to advertise to them?

Support comes in advertising money from Ford to a gay publication to stay in business reporting on everything from gay rights to gay parenting... If these publications did not exist, how does information spread?

Snowflake · 12-07-2005, 11:48 AM

Well, I find that offensive that Ford is trying to backpeddle and claim they are not discriminating. It's well known, at least I think it is, they advertise to ethnic groups, etc. and that they would announce this kind of thing will only backfire on them, I trust.

Of course, this will not force my boss (who is gay) to trade in his Harley edition Ford F150.

innerSpaceman · 12-07-2005, 12:01 PM

The title of this thread (and the general sentiment in keeping with it) disturbs me. How is it SUPPORT of the GLBT community to advertise to them? Perhaps we should concentrate on Ford's purported (and not yet demonstrated) elimination of GLBT event sponsorship. That kind of thing is support. Having policies in place to serve the relationships of its GLBT employees is support.

Trying to get you to buy a car is not support.

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Snowflake lost in the fog Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 7,831	Well, I find that offensive that Ford is trying to backpeddle and claim they are not discriminating. It's well known, at least I think it is, they advertise to ethnic groups, etc. and that they would announce this kind of thing will only backfire on them, I trust. Of course, this will not force my boss (who is gay) to trade in his Harley edition Ford F150. __________________ Be yourself; everyone else is already taken. - Oscar Wilde
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	The title of this thread (and the general sentiment in keeping with it) disturbs me. How is it SUPPORT of the GLBT community to advertise to them? Perhaps we should concentrate on Ford's purported (and not yet demonstrated) elimination of GLBT event sponsorship. That kind of thing is support. Having policies in place to serve the relationships of its GLBT employees is support. Trying to get you to buy a car is not support.
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