Does this give you a reason to like Cheney?

[Gemini Cricket]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

THAT is inexcusable. You must have all the proper licenses and/or tags to participate in hunting or fishing.

However, THAT he's blaming on a staffer of his. He can't even take responsibility for that.

Cheney's office said a staffer who obtained the vice president's hunting license was not told he needed the $7 upland game bird stamp that Texas game wardens determined was missing. Cheney was issued a warning, and Cheney said he will send the Parks and Wildlife Department a check for the stamp.

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Here's something else:

"It's important, always, to work to make sure you get information out like this as quickly as possible," McClellan said. "But it's also important to make sure that the first priority is focused where it should be, and that is making sure that Mr. Whittington has the care that he needs."

Same source as above.

Okay, this Administration is also proving to us that they are incapable of doing two things at once. If I couldn't do two things at once, I'd be fired from my job.

McClellan is telling us that it took 24 hours for us to hear about this because they were attending to Whittington's wounds. So, Cheney and his entire staff were in the waiting room? No one could have said, 'Hmm, maybe we should send out a press release on this...'

Same thing with Katrina. 'Now is not the time for blame. We must fix this problem. We can't investigate what went wrong and fix New Orleans at the same time. That's too hard. You're all about blame and we're all about fix... a fix that came too late, but we're all about fix.'

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

However, THAT he's blaming on a staffer of his. He can't even take responsibility for that.

And you'll notice that I am critical of Cheney for that. He needs to make sure he has all of the proper licenses before he goes hunting.

Here's my biggest issue with thinking this is any type of a cover up - what is being covered up? The lack of purchasing the proper credentials? No one disputes what happened. I don't get it.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

THAT is inexcusable. You must have all the proper licenses and/or tags to participate in hunting or fishing.

Wait! As a GOP member, was I just critical of a GOP vp? May it never be! Oh, my eyes have been opened and I see the error of my ways in support of any republican!

Seesch, such typical spin. Ignore the REAL issues and try to get people to focus on the minutia of a situation. You could run for VP yourself one day.

The real issue here is the turtle approach that was taken. The "I'm above the law" attitude that infects this administration.

[Gemini Cricket]

In the time it took to report the incident, the Administration got its hands on this story. That is why I said and still say that this Administration has zero accountability.

Cheney fired the gun. He should have known that everyone in his party was not in danger before he shot the gun. He didn't know where everyone was. He held the gun, he's accountable.

And, of course everyone is saying it's an accident. You can't have one GOP supporter bashing the GOP vp, can you? They all stick together... right down to taking a bullet for someone (even if the person that shot you is the high powered person you're protecting).

Cheney should have sucked it up and apologized and taken total blame for the incident. He should have been bigger than that. Be a man, Dick. Now it's going to be up to the media to lay the blame on him. Then he's going to take the victim stance... or release another video of a bin Laden or that poor hostage to take our minds off of it.

I don't think anyone can honestly believe that any member of the Bush Administration is on the level. Anyone who does is fooling himself/herself.

[Gemini Cricket]

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

Now it's going to be up to the media to lay the blame on him. Then he's going to take the victim stance... or release another video of a bin Laden or that poor hostage to take our minds off of it.

Yesterday, I told Ralphie that the 2 ways the Bush Administration was going to get this story off of the front pages was to talk about bird flu or broadcast footage of the Christian Sciene Monitor journalist hostage. Both were 'headlines' on CNN.com within the last 12 hours replacing the Cheney story.

This is the current headline on CNN.com right now:

Iraqi TV ads appeal for U.S. hostage's release

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This was the headline before I went to bed at 10:30pm est:

Crisis meeting as bird flu spreads

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And I don't think they are coincidences. The media and the Bush Administration are corrupt.

[The Shadoe]

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

The media and the Bush Administration are corrupt.

Funny you should say that, considering that the media tends to lean very much to the left. In general, the media (particularly CNN) is focused on ripping down the Bush Administration and Republicans in general. And they wonder why Fox News gets better ratings...

I remind you that the Clinton Administrations had more investigations into it than any other administration in American history. Now that's a "culture of corruption".

[Gemini Cricket]

Originally Posted by The Shadoe

Funny you should say that, considering that the media tends to lean very much to the left.

I completely disagree. The Right paints the media as 'Liberal' whenever the media says anything they disagree with. The Right is forever the victims in everything, so innocent, don't pick on us we don't deserve it... Yeah.

And, I'd love to hear an argument from Bush defenders that has nothing to do with the Clintons. I don't think they can. Does this mean that if a Dem gets in next that we can blame Bush for everything for 4-8 years? Oh goody!

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

I completely disagree. The Right paints the media as 'Liberal' whenever the media says anything they disagree with. The Right is forever the victims in everything, so innocent, don't pick on us we don't deserve it... Yeah.

The right has the victim mentality? Interesting.

As far as bias in the media, this came out not too long ago, from UCLA -

http://www.newsroom.ucla.edu/page.asp?RelNum=6664

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Originally Posted by The Shadoe

I remind you that the Clinton Administrations had more investigations into it than any other administration in American history. Now that's a "culture of corruption".

Yes, numerous investigations at the taxpayers expense to the tune of millions of dollars. All but the last one, led absolutely nowhere. The last one led to a blowjob.

Care to compare that to the investigations of Scooter, Cheney, Delay, Frist, Abramoff, Cunningham, and a whole bunch of others?

Culture of corruption indeed.

[scaeagles]

What am I spinning?

I said Cheney pulled the trigger.

I am critical that he didn't follow the law and purchase a license. In terms of minutia, I'm not the one who originally posted about not getting the license.

I am talking about the story in terms of what has been reported as far as what happened, which is not in dispute.

I have asked about what could possibly be covered up, as I don't see what they would want to cover up, and if it is a cover up, it is the world shortest and most stupid cover up. All gun shot woulds must be reported to police.

I really don't know what I am spinning.