Does this give you a reason to like Cheney?

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

Do I care that Lewinski smoked the executive pole? No. Do I care that Clinton lied about it under oath? Yes. One is a crime, the other isn't.

No crime here. Accident.

Look, like I said several times, I understand why it's a story. I can even understand that maybe it would have been a bit more responsible for him to say something. But I just can't bring myself to think it's a big deal. Unless he was paying people off to keep quiet about it, I don't care.

[scaeagles]

Scrooge and GC - I am not questioning your knowledge of firearms or hunting, in terms of saying that you don't know what you are talking about. i am just curious as to what your knowledge is.

I go dove hunting with my father and brother in laws a few times a year. Been on elk hunts and javelina hunts, though only as a spotter, not a hunter.

I'm not upset with anyone. I just really, truly, honestly, do not see what the big deal is in a 24 hour delay of release of this info to the press.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

and javelina hunts,

Monster.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Monster.

Typical liberal spin from your side.

Ever seen a full grown one - butt ugly suckers. Almost worse than cats.

[mousepod]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

I go dove hunting ... a few times a year.

Is anyone going to touch that line? It's a gimme!

[Prudence]

I am actually not bothered by the missing stamp or the initial lack of reporting.

Perhaps the staffers are lying through their hoo-hoos, but I've been in too many situations myself where I've called to find out what was needed for some activity, trusted the word of the employee, and then discovered that oh, I don't have this other thing that they recently decided to require and don't have their employees who answer the "call for information" phone tell people about.

As for lack of reporting - I don't particularly care. There are so many actual newsworthy happenings that I'd rather spend my brain power pondering.

I am a little disappointed. I'm disappointed anytime a public figure chooses silence instead of teaching. This is a perfect teaching opportunity. In my fantasy world, the VP would make a public statement about how this incident demonstrates how important safety is when hunting, that even experienced hunters can make mistakes, and maybe even what he or the unintentional target will do differently next time.

Of course he's not required to do that. He's not even obligated to do that. But if he had, I would have been impressed.

Oh, and no, I've never been hunting. I did do some target practice with a bow and arrow and was quite good at it, but that was a long time ago.

[innerSpaceman]

Ya know, I also feel that the Danish cartoons were a non-story, but a whole lot of Muslim rioters felt differently ... and made it a story.

This is a news story if enough people think it is.


Seems like enough people do.




I'm one of them. Moving this thread to the 'Grind.

[wendybeth]

It's a story, whether the White House thinks so or not. The excuses given for not reporting it, and then deferring to the owner of the ranch, are about the lamest I've seen in a long time. I can't figure out if it's simply arrogance on the VP's part (I don't have to tell anyone!) or if they were just trying to figure out a way to play it down, but I am amused by imagining possible scenarios for the latter. I am sure it was just a dumb accident, and in a way it humanizes Cheney to me, but to try and say it's not a story is erroneous. He's the VP, for God's sake! Of course people are going to want to read about it, but their lapse in reporting has made it much more of a story than it would have been. It could have been downplayed as a Gerald FOrd moment, but now conspiracy theorists will have a field day. I am also amused by the righteous indignation of the Press Corps and some of their comments to McClellan- they are genuinly indignant about the perceived lapse of protocol, and you can really see the ego's coming out as well.


Darn good thing Cheney travels with a medical team, eh?

Edited to add: More news on the VP's shooting vistim.

[Ghoulish Delight]

I never said it's not a story. In fact, I said several times that I undertand why it's a story. It's the delay that I think is a non-story.

[wendybeth]

I get that, GD- it's the White House that's playing the non-story angle.