The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 105

scaeagles · 08-13-2006, 10:16 AM

Connecticut poll

I am certain we will be getting polling updates on this nearly daily until November, but early on Lieberman has a lead and is polling better than his opponent.

Prior to any polling I figured he had a shot as an independent. It looks like he may be the one to beat.

I figure that if he stays up in the polls many dems will start to endorse him to look good when he wins, and that will pave the way to them bringing him back in the fold do that they aren't down a senator after November.

Alex · 08-13-2006, 10:48 AM

George Will said this morning on This Week that he wouldn't be suprised if the Republican Party endorses Lieberman (and since the Republican candidate has some ethical problems they have a good excuse).

Motorboat Cruiser · 08-15-2006, 03:21 PM

From today:

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"We disrupted a terror plot, a plot where people were willing to kill innocent life to achieve political objectives," Bush said.

Pardon me, but "we" didn't disrupt anything. Why is he taking credit for something that the British uncovered? I've read nothing to suggest that the US played a role in uncovering this plot.

sleepyjeff · 08-15-2006, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser

From today:

Pardon me, but "we" didn't disrupt anything. Why is he taking credit for something that the British uncovered? I've read nothing to suggest that the US played a role in uncovering this plot.

It's a team thing......kinda like if the Dodgers were to ever win the World Series(not happening btw)---all the fans would be saying "we won"

I know, I know.....another awful and painful analogy from sj

scaeagles · 08-15-2006, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser

Pardon me, but "we" didn't disrupt anything. Why is he taking credit for something that the British uncovered? I've read nothing to suggest that the US played a role in uncovering this plot.

I have read that the US gave a whole bunch of intercepted communications to the Britishm, but as I am not very informed right now, it is possible that was retracted or changed.

Motorboat Cruiser · 08-16-2006, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

I have read that the US gave a whole bunch of intercepted communications to the Britishm, but as I am not very informed right now, it is possible that was retracted or changed.

As of yet, I have been able to find any mention of anyone but british and Pakistani intelligence uncovering this plot who then promptly turned over the information to the US. All I could find was this ambiguous quote from (surprise) Fox News that a few bloggers insist is proof of US involvement:

Quote:

After the first arrests in Pakistan some days ago, word went from Pakistan to the London plotters to move ahead quickly, a message intercepted by an intelligence agency, a U.S. official disclosed on condition of anonymity. That prompted British police to move in on the conspirators, long under watch.

But notice that the article doesn't specifically say a "U.S." intelligence agency, rather just some intelligence agency from somewhere intercepted the message. How nice of Fox to let readers fill in their own details about what happened.

I'm even more convinced now that we were the last ones to hear about this. If someone elses google skills can prove otherwise, I'm willing to change my opinion.

mousepod · 08-15-2006, 03:36 PM

Not that I was that scared to fly anyway, but I'm heartened to hear that SFO is going to start scanning airplane cargo. My non-stop flight to Orlando next week will probably be just a little bit safer than my return flight.

However, I wonder why Bush and co. are making such a big deal about carry-on screening when they're still not checking cargo. 5 years after 9/11 and 18 years after Locherbie, you'd think they'd be on it.

Here's an interesting article about it in today's WSJ.

Ghoulish Delight · 08-15-2006, 03:38 PM

A coworker from one of our other locations flew into John Wayne yesterday. He loves the new restrictions...couldn't be happier to walk onto the plane and not have to shove past scores of people swinging tote bags and cramming things into overhead bins.

Motorboat Cruiser · 08-16-2006, 02:30 AM

I would be interested in a cite but I know this isn't exactly the best time to ask. You've got a full enough plate. I'll see if I can find one so you don't have to worry about it.

And might I add how strange and ucky it feels to go looking for evidence to back up your assertion for you.

scaeagles · 08-16-2006, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser

And might I add how strange and ucky it feels to go looking for evidence to back up your assertion for you.

I'm actually not even starting a new job. I just figured my absence was the only real way to convert you all.

08-13-2006, 10:16 AM	#1
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Connecticut poll I am certain we will be getting polling updates on this nearly daily until November, but early on Lieberman has a lead and is polling better than his opponent. Prior to any polling I figured he had a shot as an independent. It looks like he may be the one to beat. I figure that if he stays up in the polls many dems will start to endorse him to look good when he wins, and that will pave the way to them bringing him back in the fold do that they aren't down a senator after November.
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08-13-2006, 10:48 AM	#2
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	George Will said this morning on This Week that he wouldn't be suprised if the Republican Party endorses Lieberman (and since the Republican candidate has some ethical problems they have a good excuse).
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mousepod You broke your Ramadar! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,635	Not that I was that scared to fly anyway, but I'm heartened to hear that SFO is going to start scanning airplane cargo. My non-stop flight to Orlando next week will probably be just a little bit safer than my return flight. However, I wonder why Bush and co. are making such a big deal about carry-on screening when they're still not checking cargo. 5 years after 9/11 and 18 years after Locherbie, you'd think they'd be on it. Here's an interesting article about it in today's WSJ. __________________ "Give the public everything you can give them, keep the place as clean as you can keep it, keep it friendly" - Walt Disney
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08-15-2006, 03:38 PM	#8
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	A coworker from one of our other locations flew into John Wayne yesterday. He loves the new restrictions...couldn't be happier to walk onto the plane and not have to shove past scores of people swinging tote bags and cramming things into overhead bins. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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08-16-2006, 02:30 AM	#9
Motorboat Cruiser Cruiser of Motorboats Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: So Cal Posts: 3,665	I would be interested in a cite but I know this isn't exactly the best time to ask. You've got a full enough plate. I'll see if I can find one so you don't have to worry about it. And might I add how strange and ucky it feels to go looking for evidence to back up your assertion for you.
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