The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 162

Motorboat Cruiser · 11-07-2006, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Nephythys

Amen Brutha MBC- my question is, how do you fix it?

I honestly don't know. It just seems like the old system served us well for many, many years. Sure there were occasional problems but overall it seemed far more reliable. I'm not convinced that electronic voting is anywhere near as reliable. Just too many problems so far.

Technology is a wonderful thing but until there truly is a tamper-proof way to utilize it, I think I am going to be an absentee voter from now on.

DreadPirateRoberts · 11-07-2006, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser

I honestly don't know. It just seems like the old system served us well for many, many years. Sure there were occasional problems but overall it seemed far more reliable. I'm not convinced that electronic voting is anywhere near as reliable. Just too many problems so far.

Technology is a wonderful thing but until there truly is a tamper-proof way to utilize it, I think I am going to be an absentee voter from now on.

I wonder if the problems we are seeing now are really worse than the past, or if in this age of instant information, we are more aware of them now.

Ghoulish Delight · 11-07-2006, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Nephythys

Amen Brutha MBC- my question is, how do you fix it?

I honestly believe the first, and easiest, step is to actually properly educate the poll workers. 99% of the issues you read about are either caused or exacerbated by poll workers who don't know the laws, don't understand the system, don't know how to resolve issues if they come up, and don't know where to turn for help. That's a serious flaw and no matter what rule changes you make, if the people running the show don't understand how to enforce them, we'll never get anywhere.

Scrooge McSam · 11-07-2006, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nephythys

Amen Brutha MBC- my question is, how do you fix it?

That's the rub, isn't it?

MBC, I'm surprised also but on the complete opposite end of the spectrum. I expected a free for all. I don't know if that's because of the good experience I had here, but I'm not seeing as many system failures in the news as I expected. For the most part, it seems the machines have been calibrated properly. There is some vote switching, but again not as much as I expected.

Nephythys · 11-07-2006, 03:24 PM

I understand the argument against poll workers giving bad info. I do not understand nor accept the ludicrous notion that requiring ID causes people to not vote, or feel that they can't vote.

Seems like a sure shot way to prevent fraud.

Ghoulish Delight · 11-07-2006, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Nephythys

I understand the argument against poll workers giving bad info. I do not understand nor accept the ludicrous notion that requiring ID causes people to not vote, or feel that they can't vote.

Seems like a sure shot way to prevent fraud.

Which is fine, but a totally different discussion. No matter what the specifics of voting laws are, poll workers are by-and-large idiots and rarely know how to properly apply them.

Nephythys · 11-07-2006, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Which is fine, but a totally different discussion. No matter what the specifics of voting laws are, poll workers are by-and-large idiots and rarely know how to properly apply them.

Gosh- what a nice thing to say about the people who take their day to help people vote.

Ghoulish Delight · 11-07-2006, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nephythys

Gosh- what a nice thing to say about the people who take their day to help people vote.

Sorry, I meant to specify the poll workers involved in most of the problems that get reported. Didn't mean to implicate all poll workers.

Ghoulish Delight · 11-07-2006, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Sorry, I meant to specify the poll workers involved in most of the problems that get reported. Didn't mean to implicate all poll workers.

And double sorry, I shouldn't imply that just because they screw up they're idiots. The can't be blamed if the correct information isn't readily available to them, or if procedures for dealing with issues aren't clearly laid out.

I'll revise to say that the entire system (or lack thereof) of running polling places is idiotic, independent of the actualy laws that govern them.

Ghoulish Delight · 11-07-2006, 03:53 PM

Screw all this election crap...Brittney and K-Fed are getting divorced!!!!

Man, I do NOT envy the judge who has to make THAT custody decission.

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