The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 596

JWBear · 11-15-2010, 11:04 PM

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."

Kevy Baby · 11-17-2010, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."

"Facts to a Liberal are like Kryptonite to Superman."

- Larry Elder (no relation)

JWBear · 11-17-2010, 01:51 PM

I heard an interesting idea today. For every American job their company ships (or has shipped) overseas, a CEO's tax rate goes up .01%. Watch how fast those jobs come flying back to America!

alphabassettgrrl · 11-18-2010, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JWBear

I heard an interesting idea today. For every American job their company ships (or has shipped) overseas, a CEO's tax rate goes up .01%. Watch how fast those jobs come flying back to America!

I like it!

Alex · 11-18-2010, 11:00 AM

JWBear's idea might feel good emotionally but it could never be implemented and if it did would, I expect, have the opposite impact desired (that is keeping jobs out of America and further pushing the companies themselves to relocate out of the United States)

Not to mention the definitional problem of precisely identifying what is a job that "moved" out of the country (I assume that this is what is meant by "overseas" and not that Mexico is ok). Some are obvious, but many are not.

If I fire 300 people in a U.S. call center and open an Indian one with 100 people, how many jobs moved? My friend recently moved permanently from Seattle to France while keeping the same job, did that move overseas? The CEO ultimately responsible for Budweiser is a Brazilian who lives in Belgium. How are we going to punish him when he moves a bottling plant from Arizona into Mexico since he likely doesn't pay U.S. income taxes? Etc.

JWBear · 11-18-2010, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Not to mention the definitional problem of precisely identifying what is a job that "moved" out of the country (I assume that this is what is meant by "overseas" and not that Mexico is ok). Some are obvious, but many are not.

Yes, out of the country. Mexico and Canada count.

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Originally Posted by Alex

If I fire 300 people in a U.S. call center and open an Indian one with 100 people, how many jobs moved?

100

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Originally Posted by Alex

My friend recently moved permanently from Seattle to France while keeping the same job, did that move overseas?

No. An American still holds the job.

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Originally Posted by Alex

The CEO ultimately responsible for Budweiser is a Brazilian who lives in Belgium. How are we going to punish him when he moves a bottling plant from Arizona into Mexico since he likely doesn't pay U.S. income taxes? Etc.

Foriegn owned companies should no longer be considered "American", and have heavy tarrifs imposed. If you want to operate a company in America, it needs to be owned and operated by Americans. A bit jingoistic, I know, but it's time we start thinking of your own people first.

Alex · 11-18-2010, 11:57 AM

Ah, destroy the American economy outright. That'll work well in the long run.

Should Ford not be allowed (or strongly, strongly discouraged) to build and sell cars in India?

JWBear · 11-24-2010, 04:58 PM

Justice Scalia says the 14th Amendment does not apply to homosexuals or women.

Disgusting.

Betty · 12-01-2010, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JWBear

Justice Scalia says the 14th Amendment does not apply to homosexuals or women.

Disgusting.

Wow. What about black people? They weren't originally included either.

Moonliner · 12-02-2010, 02:22 PM

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Justice Scalia says the 14th Amendment does not apply to homosexuals or women.

Disgusting.

Reading the article it sounds like he was just stating fact. The 14th Amendment was not written to apply to homosexuals or women (or blacks, or....)

Are you saying the 14th Amendment as written is disgusting or that Scalia is Disgusting for pointing it out?

11-15-2010, 11:04 PM	#1
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11-17-2010, 01:51 PM	#3
JWBear Worn Romantic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Long Beach California Posts: 8,435	I heard an interesting idea today. For every American job their company ships (or has shipped) overseas, a CEO's tax rate goes up .01%. Watch how fast those jobs come flying back to America! __________________ Unrestrained frivolity will lead to the downfall of modern society.
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11-18-2010, 11:00 AM	#5
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	JWBear's idea might feel good emotionally but it could never be implemented and if it did would, I expect, have the opposite impact desired (that is keeping jobs out of America and further pushing the companies themselves to relocate out of the United States) Not to mention the definitional problem of precisely identifying what is a job that "moved" out of the country (I assume that this is what is meant by "overseas" and not that Mexico is ok). Some are obvious, but many are not. If I fire 300 people in a U.S. call center and open an Indian one with 100 people, how many jobs moved? My friend recently moved permanently from Seattle to France while keeping the same job, did that move overseas? The CEO ultimately responsible for Budweiser is a Brazilian who lives in Belgium. How are we going to punish him when he moves a bottling plant from Arizona into Mexico since he likely doesn't pay U.S. income taxes? Etc.
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11-18-2010, 11:57 AM	#7
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Ah, destroy the American economy outright. That'll work well in the long run. Should Ford not be allowed (or strongly, strongly discouraged) to build and sell cars in India?
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11-24-2010, 04:58 PM	#8
JWBear Worn Romantic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Long Beach California Posts: 8,435	Justice Scalia says the 14th Amendment does not apply to homosexuals or women. Disgusting. __________________ Unrestrained frivolity will lead to the downfall of modern society.
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