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Old 04-07-2006, 11:24 PM   #1
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I ****ing hate Dick Cheney. I hate few people on this earth, but he is one of them. Evil, evil man. And, if you're not very careful................he'll shoot you in the face!
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Old 04-07-2006, 11:26 PM   #2
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Many of them simply signed up for the national guard out of a sense of patriotism after 9/11. I'm sure they never in a million years envisioned that they would be sitting in an Iraqi desert being shot at and bombed.
Or, as in Pat Tilman's case, being killed by your own and then having it get covered up and then used for propoganda by the military and far right.
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Old 04-08-2006, 04:26 AM   #3
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Many of them simply signed up for the national guard out of a sense of patriotism after 9/11. I'm sure they never in a million years envisioned that they would be sitting in an Iraqi desert being shot at and bombed.
Yes, I know a few who did just that and are now in Iraq and scared ***less on an extended tour of duty.
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Old 04-07-2006, 10:51 PM   #4
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Old 04-07-2006, 11:02 PM   #5
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I have something totally evil to respond to that, Jeff- so evil that even I cannot do so.

She's a tv personality, not an anchor, btw. She is merely the penance that CBS must perform to make up for their abysmally idiotic failure to check out Rove's bait before airing it.

I'm sure their ratings will soar.
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Old 04-09-2006, 08:15 AM   #6
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The mistake is positing solutions in which killing is viewed as the only measure of success. For that reason, we will never bring peace to Iraq. In the current paradigm, there is no reason to stop killing, for to do so is to admit failure - for any of the players.
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I don't think "killing" is the measure of success on the US's part: Their goal is basically to stop the killing; every time someone is killed, be it an American, or an Iraqi, our cause is hurt---not true with the other side.
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I don't think "killing" is the measure of success on the US's part: Their goal is basically to stop the killing; every time someone is killed, be it an American, or an Iraqi, our cause is hurt---not true with the other side.

The link that Kevy posted shows otherwise.
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Old 04-09-2006, 11:43 AM   #10
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The link that Kevy posted shows otherwise.
I do not enjoy disciplining my children. My goal is to not have to discipline them because they make they will make the right (as a parent, I determine right) choices. If I have to discipline them, have I failed in my goal? No. not in the least. I am hopefully moving toward the goal of not having to dicsipline them by disciplining them.

Our goal during the cold war was not to nuke to USSR. Yet we built a tremendous arsenal to ensure we would not have to use them (mutually assured destruction).

It is most certainly possible to have a goal of the elimination of conflict while engaging in conflict itself.
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