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One of the persons whining in the news was a landscaper whose illegal help skipped work. He's out $12,000 for the day, which makes me wonder how much he'd be out if he had legal workers? The answer is zip, because they would have been at work. Now, I realise the rest of the time he makes out like a bandit because he underpays and doesn't have to worry about taxes so much, so hopefully he's put some of that money aside to help defray today's expenses.
It also makes me think that perhaps they have miscalculated- knowing that so many illegals are willing to organize and act out will surely make people more leery of them on the whole and maybe spur the anti's into action. |
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I'd bet you're right, CP. To many (most?) it was not a protest, but an excuse to have a day off.
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I guess to further my question, do they have the "protected" rights to free speech as legal citizens might have?
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SC your all wrong man you gotta get in the Jr High mentality and quit being all white and uptight... Then you will see what its all about
You gotta understand this protest has deep meaning attached it was totally spontaneously started by a 1/4 Salvadorian Kid who got picked on by the Mexican's at school but then he made peace with them cause of when he was called a wetback by some a-hole white senior now he has a dream (and a fauxhawk) and shares it all I got the my-space bulletin I know what’s up. Illegal Immigration is so way not even a problem if you think so you are a racist and junk Viva La Raza! I am so on board for this **** Our next move to soften the movements perceived angry edge and gain much momentum from our uninterested high school brothers and sisters is to adopt a mascot with a younger more viral appeal therefore I propose The Spanish Fly So do your part every little bit matters and **** Us kids have voices that need hearing too yo Peace out Bitches! ![]() |
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The Old People went out driving yesterday to see what local businesses were closed so that they could see where they would never go again. They found it odd that there were news reports that Jack in the Box was closed, but the many locally owned Mexican restaraunts were open.
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If all illegal immigrants (not immigrants - ILLEGAL immigrants) are made legal - there will be a new wave of illegal immigrants and all the "old" ones will lose their jobs to the new ones who will work for less money.
What I learned from yesterdays events... There was ZERO traffic on the way to work. The offramp I exit usually has a wait of 3-4 lights before getting through. I was the only one exiting yesterday. There was only 1 person in line at the drive through during lunch instead of 5 or 6. Lot's of kid were absent from school... wouldn't it be nice if overcrowding was reduced all the time. The only way I was impacted was in a positive way. The news calls it Immigrants Day and what not and that's just a blatent lie. It's not IMMIGRANTS - but people who are doing something that is blatently illegal. I would love to have each company have a way to securely check S.S. cards. Then - CRACK DOWN on EMPLOYERS. No jobs. No pay. No people thinking there will be a better job here. Just think of what all of those people who protested could do if they all stood together in Mexico. No work, no school, just one big - HEAR US! Think of the change they could bring about in Mexico! Personally, I would rather pay higher prices for vegetables then health care. And all this - they are doing jobs American's won't do. That's incorrect. It should be - they do jobs american's won't do for less then minimum wage. I know plenty of people who would work in a restauraunt or in construction. Just think - we might actually have a kid from down the street mow our lawn and earn some money - an actual paper boy from our neighborhood. I find myself more worked up over this issue then really -anything other I can think of. A vote on this issue, for me, takes precendence over a woman's right to choose - and that is something I never thought I'd be willing to budge on. Of course, I don't think it'll ever come down to that. both political parties are so incredibly stupid that the "immigrant vote" is clearly more important then my own is.
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There are so many approaches to immigration and this event didn't articulate any. It's supporters paint the opposition as people who want to stop imiigration all together. The opposition see the supporters wanting amnisty for all illeagle immigrants, or open borders. I don't think either is completely true, but perpetuation of the extremes makes for good media.
Sadly, I think both sides are closer on this issue than I think. Personally, this is one area where I think George Bush came up with a sensible approach - i.e. a guest worker program. There's obviously a niche being filled by the existing illeagle immigrants - let's find a way to take advantage of that in a more manageable fashion.
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Didn't they turn down the 'Guest Worker' program?
And, it wasn't Oceanside last night but Escondido. I turned off my computer before the news came on at 11. Oh, Betty, wouldn't that be awesome if our classes were not crowded? I know education for all 'yada yada' but why can't Mexico educate their own people? I know the wealthy there are fine. They need to take care of their poor the way we try to here. At a local school meeting, a woman from a completely different neighborhood was talking to the principal and he said 'Well, if you know someone in the area...but I can't really talk about that. Too political.' A woman in the office during registration was very upset because the secretary was asking for certain papers {that we all have to provide} and she just didn't want to abide by them and was upset she had to. See, one of them was an affidavit that the person she was registering lived with her. There are houses that you see 3-5 cars drop off kids and that person will take them to school. Now, that is all fantastic that their kids are getting a great education but then the schools are unaccessable for my kid. They have the tricks necessary to get in to the better schools and I don't I know, off track.
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